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Ok, first off, let me say that I'm sorry for this nooby question, for I know you guys get people like me all the time. Well, I've tried looking in a lot of places, yet I've still not really found too much information on overclocking and the risks. I know it can be done on certain parts, though I'm not familiar with which, and that it increases the performance quite a bit, depending on the part. I don't know anything about how to do it though, or the risks of it at all. I wouldn't mind if someone posted a link, and wouldn't care if no one helps atall, I just wanted to give it a shot. I'm planning on building a completely new pc, and I want it to be a BANG for the buck.

Oh, and if it's not much of any extra struggle at all, I didn't know it I should overclock this proccessor or graphics card at all. The processor is dual core, so I didn't knwo if that increased gameplay, which would be the major reason for me pimping a cpu, or if I should go ahead and boost it more. Here are the links of the two parts if you want to see all the specs.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103562 Proc
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814141024 Card

Thx so much for all the help.
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post #2 of 21
Both that processor and video card are very good overclockers. I would recommend that you surf this site and learn as much as you can then ask questions and have us help you overclock them. If you do it correctly you could boost you computer's performance especially in games by a huge degree with the overclocking you could do with that video card and processor.
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First off...Welcome.
Secondly...go to the top of the page and click the "user cp" link and fill out your system specs. This will help us to give you correct info on the parts you are working with.
http://www.overclock.net/amd-general...ing-guide.html
This will get you started on overclocking the cpu...
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/2608...hics-card.html
This will help for the vid card...
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hmm, aight, thanks alot bro. I've looked up a bit, and I just read that overclocking decreases life and increases the hardware temperature in there in the case, along with requiring more voltage. I'm using a 450w power source atm, and have two fans in, though I'm not sure how to judge a fan's cooling rating, and have some parts w/ built-on stock fans. If I overclocked them to a pleasing degree, about how much difference would that make in the extra requirements that I mentioned above, along w/ the part's life? And as you mentioned earlier, I'll continue to surf this site for more info.

@ busa: thanks for the links, I'll start working on that right now.
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post #5 of 21
Both that CPU and graphics cards are good. That dual core could get anywhere from 2.5 to 2.65+. There aren't really many risks in overclocking if its done correctly. Just keep temp. at/under 50c and voltage as low as possible.
EDIT\\\\\\\\ the stock coolers are acually pretty good IMO. The 450w PSU sounds like it might be a bit weak though.
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haha, thanks everyone. So what is a fast speed for AMD to shoot for? I'm familiar w/ Pentium standards, but I nkow AMD is different. Sorry you guys, I'm starting to get into computers atm, so i'm not the quickest yet...
Oh and I'm workign on my PC specs atm, but it's taking a little bit of time.
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People tend to say "overclocking is a no no, why dont you just buy better stuff?". My answer is usually, "A no no? Do you know HOW to overclock? Do you actually know the risks? Why should I buy something thats £200 more when I can buy this and get the same performance for far less?".

Overclocking, when done right, has alot of benefits, they also tend to out weigh the risks.

Benefits:

Faster Components
Faster PC is general
Save a whole load of cash
The experience and knowledge about a PC that comes with it

Risks (when done properly):

Shave a week or two off the life span of your CPU\\Graphics card..(the life spans are about 12 years)
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Heres the difference explained by Jori about the difference between AMD and Intel clock speeds link
A fast speed for an AMD processer how be something above 3.0ghz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Jester
People tend to say "overclocking is a no no, why dont you just buy better stuff?".
What if there is no "better stuff"?
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post #10 of 21
Ya..."fast" for an AMD...is about 3.0. That's the ultimate goal for most people here. As for Intel, most guys are shooting for 4.0, but it's a lot easier to hit that...and some are going way over it now.

So, 2.6 is what most AMD guys can get...then 2.8 is a FAST cpu...and 3.0 is what all the lucky guys get...
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