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haha, ok, so I posted some specs up now. Sorry they aren't soo descriptive, I'm not too knowledgabel on that kind of stuff yet. If you want to see them in more detail, I have links of the parts. And I didn't post the cooling system yet, for I don't know what to look for in fans, as far as ratings go. And my power source comes with the case, it's 450w, yet there are reports of it not being soo good, so I may end up buying another one.
@dangeroushobo Thanks for the comparison...that is ALOT easier than I thought.

Oh, and a random question. I'm going to use this computer for gaming mainly. So should I really stick w/ dual core, like does that improve gaming speeds at all, or should I stick w/ a single core faster one? I also knwo Windows Vista is on it's way...it it doesn't keep on getting delayed... and I know DC will help that alot. Any suggestions? Thanks for the active community, I never thought I'd get this much help xP.
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Oh, and a random question. I'm going to use this computer for gaming mainly. So should I really stick w/ dual core, like does that improve gaming speeds at all, or should I stick w/ a single core faster one? I also knwo Windows Vista is on it's way...it it doesn't keep on getting delayed... and I know DC will help that alot. Any suggestions? Thanks for the active community, I never thought I'd get this much help xP.
Most people are going to say stay with dual core b/c its more future proof. There is not much of a difference in game though since most games are still not coded to take advangate of dual cores. But if you mutli-task then dual core is nice. I'd stick with it, or save money and get the single core 3700+. They overclock nice lately. Windows Vista is not worth it yet IMO. But then again I'm a linux fan.
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ya, Vista isn't looking really all that nice, atm anyway. I'd actually prefer linux over any as well, however not all software runs on Linux, at least to my understanding. But like I mentioned, I'm new, so I haven't been too familiar with OS.
OH, and also could anyone suggest a high enough voltage to get? I kwow it kind of depends on how much I overclock and what all I overclock, but I'm planning on enhancing everything as much as I can, without it being TOO TOO high, because I don't want any BIG risks. I'm also planning on using the liquid-cooling systme, once I find out how much it would cost, or placing a lot of fans in it, or a mixture of both if the price is right. My case has window sides and blue led lights, so extra fans are never a bad thing to have xP.
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the voltage really depends on the chip. Like the 3700+'s for example, most people need about 1.55-1.6v for 2.9, but mine or just the KACAE stepping in general likes lower voltage of 1.41-1.48v for 2.9. I'd say 1.55v is the max with out going to far with it. But work up slowly with your overclock. Your patience will pay off in the end.
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haha, alright, thanks for the help everyone. If you don't mind, you've answered everything I need except for two things...

1.) Would you reccommend me using liquid cooling, usnig fans, or a combination of the two? Like, which would do a better job, and is the liquid cooling really that safe? I just don't like the idea of water in my pc.... Also, what would hte price be for all the liquid cooling parts?

2.) What all parts can I overclock? I know of the Processor and the Graphics card, but is there anything else?
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1.) Would you reccommend me using liquid cooling, usnig fans, or a combination of the two? Like, which would do a better job, and is the liquid cooling really that safe? I just don't like the idea of water in my pc.... Also, what would hte price be for all the liquid cooling parts?

2.) What all parts can I overclock? I know of the Processor and the Graphics card, but is there anything else?
1)I'd recomend the Big Typhoon. It an air cooler w/ heat pipes. Water is safe if you use a coolent fluid that is non-conductive. So if there is a leak no damage should be done. Some big air/heat pipe cooler work just as well as cheaper liquid cooling, and are a lot easier to set up. Air is cheaper than a water cooled system.

2)You can overclock the CPU, the graphics card, the memory, and thats really it.
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post #17 of 21
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hmm, I dunno about the Big Typhoon...that thing is BEASTY and won't fit in my case xP. So what would your suggestion be in this instance. I want the pc to look good as well, like it has a glass wall on the sides, and led lights w/ a lit power source and fan in it. Do you think I should just go w/ more fans, or liquid? If they both have the same effect, than I'd rather just go for whichever one looks cooler, because I'm guessing the prices aren't drastically different.
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hmm, I dunno about the Big Typhoon...that thing is BEASTY and won't fit in my case xP. So what would your suggestion be in this instance. I want the pc to look good as well, like it has a glass wall on the sides, and led lights w/ a lit power source and fan in it. Do you think I should just go w/ more fans, or liquid? If they both have the same effect, than I'd rather just go for whichever one looks cooler, because I'm guessing the prices aren't drastically different.
If you don't like the size of the "BT"...then look at the xp90 or 120. There are a few other "tower" style coolers that work well. There is a major price difference between "good" water and air. Air will run you 50-75 depending on what unit and fan. Water will run you 200 or more depending on how far you go with it.
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You should overclock everything on stock voltage first...and when things start running unstable, then you would increase the voltage by small increments until you reach stability........watch your temps (below 50c) I've seen vcores past 1.6 even 1.7, but I would stay below 1.55 if possible, and you may not need much at all
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