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You mentioned some VGA signal modding, what's it about biggrin.gif?
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Basically it was to generate a signal for the DVI / VGA monitor plug that would go into my 2nd 580 for folding. Apparently however, there is a force fermi flag which makes this not required. However it'll still be my first time doing it so in case I do have to use the resistors, they're sitting here just in case .
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Alrighty... Here's what's up!

For 4GHz, you need 210x19 (or 211x19). I'd recommend starting at 200x19 and 1.35V (way more than needed, but a safe buffer). Set the memory to the x8 multiplier for 1600MHz and the Uncore to the 12-16 multiplier for 2400MHz-3200MHz. Though the 16x multiplier is not necessary (Gulftown only requires 1.5x the memory speed for Uncore as opposed to Nehalem's 2x), it is functional and shouldn't be difficult to stabilize. Set the QPI/VTT voltage (or Uncore voltage, I'm not familiar with the SR-2 BIOS) to 1.35V as well. This should be enough to stabilize the uncore. Set the QPI PLL to somewhere around 1.3V, the CPU PLL to ~1.7V, the IOH core to ~1.24, and the memory voltage to 1.65V (or 1.66 if 1.65V is not offered). Leave anything to do with the ICH on auto for now. If there's anything else, it's most likely safe on auto as well.

Set your memory timings manually and you should be good to boot at a stable 3.8GHz.

Once you have this stable, try raising the BCLK 1MHz at a time and booting. SR-2's tend to have trouble with BCLK above 200. Once you've made it to 205, try testing for stability. Then keep going until you get to 210 (for 3.99GHz) or 211 (for 4.009GHz).

The voltages I listed at the beginning should be enough for 4GHz. You can either keep pushing BCLK until you run into instability, or start lowering voltages once you get to where you want to be.

Hope this helps. Let me know if it works!



EDIT: I forgot Gulftown offers two multipliers above the stock one. With that, you could just do 200x20. Silly me forgot and I have one
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***? you used spread method? Shame!
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***? you used spread method? Shame!
As long as you tighten the HS enough, it won't make much of a difference.
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that makes it worse!


jesus how many poeple don't know i'd almost pay several hundred dollars jsut have this video plastered all over OCN.
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Actually, for all of the other times I've ever TIM'd a CPU, I've just done a pea-size or ball bearing size glob of compound and stuck the heatsink on. I had thought, that doing an even spread would be better but if not I can always remove it .

For what it's worth, since I had to re-oriente my CPU0 Megahalems to test out vertical airflow, after about a month or so of running the system, I had removed the heatsink to find the compound pretty much even, with a little more at the edges. From what I can tell, I don't think it's caused a huge difference but I can always mess with it later if temps do get out of hand.

**Edit, thanks very much for posting the video cdouble, +REP. While I don't know how Prolimatech compound compares to AS5 or even AS3, I scraped my CPUs to IMO a pretty thin layer of compound. When I removed the one heatsink, there wasn't even as much solid white as you had shown in the videos. I did twist a bit though (more probably on accident) to probably get any air bubbles out.
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Alrighty... Here's what's up!

For 4GHz, you need 210x19 (or 211x19). I'd recommend starting at 200x19 and 1.35V (way more than needed, but a safe buffer). Set the memory to the x8 multiplier for 1600MHz and the Uncore to the 12-16 multiplier for 2400MHz-3200MHz. Though the 16x multiplier is not necessary (Gulftown only requires 1.5x the memory speed for Uncore as opposed to Nehalem's 2x), it is functional and shouldn't be difficult to stabilize. Set the QPI/VTT voltage (or Uncore voltage, I'm not familiar with the SR-2 BIOS) to 1.35V as well. This should be enough to stabilize the uncore. Set the QPI PLL to somewhere around 1.3V, the CPU PLL to ~1.7V, the IOH core to ~1.24, and the memory voltage to 1.65V (or 1.66 if 1.65V is not offered). Leave anything to do with the ICH on auto for now. If there's anything else, it's most likely safe on auto as well.

Set your memory timings manually and you should be good to boot at a stable 3.8GHz.

Once you have this stable, try raising the BCLK 1MHz at a time and booting. SR-2's tend to have trouble with BCLK above 200. Once you've made it to 205, try testing for stability. Then keep going until you get to 210 (for 3.99GHz) or 211 (for 4.009GHz).

The voltages I listed at the beginning should be enough for 4GHz. You can either keep pushing BCLK until you run into instability, or start lowering voltages once you get to where you want to be.

Hope this helps. Let me know if it works!



EDIT: I forgot Gulftown offers two multipliers above the stock one. With that, you could just do 200x20. Silly me forgot and I have one
Hey Bass,

Not a problem, and thank you very much for going into quite the detail needed (definitely getting +REP lol). I was starting to understand from other guides that I would be needing settings pretty close to what you wrote, but this puts it in one easy to follow place. I am thinking to probably still use the Uncore 16x - while I'm not sure if it's required for Westmere, most of the posts on the Uncore subject do seem to indicate a ratio of 2x for it to memory multiplier if you will. (2:8 should make it 16x Uncore). Otherwise from my somewhat limited understanding, everything you said appears within safe settings and is good for long term use (or so I hope). Most things are already on auto or already properly set to the respective voltages you suggested. The things that aren't only need to be bumped by 0.03 to 0.05v anyway so that's good.

I'll slowly phase in up to 4.0 if my temps stay in check. I'm also making spiffy graphs for benchies so it'll allow the system to get some stability testing in at each speed jump.
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pea size is to big let alone ball bearing way to much rice grain is perfect. fro all intensive purposes the TIM is purely to fill a microscopic gap between cooler and cpu and if you pu to much on it will make a gap between the cooler and cpu acting an insulator so to speak. on top of that i would useing MX2 not the crap they supply with the coolers.

if your gonna use this thing your gonna wanna overclock it and the lower the temps the better. there is science to this thats why i hate people who post **** like the the spread method on youtube or worse yet the twist method it on works if you clamp the cpu down first.

also one thing people over look if keeping constant down pressure on the CPU while apply the clamps/mounting brackets not to much down force because it lifts up ANY bit at all after setting it down on the rice grain of TIM it suck air back in to the spread cause it's causing a small amount of lift.

I may just make a big azz guide and post it on OCN.
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Sounds awesome!

Yeah, for Westmere Uncore only needs to be 1.5x. 2x obviously comes with more performance and is very doable!

Sounds like you've done all the necessary research and can handle it. Keep us updated!
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