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Poll Results: What should I do about CPU cooling?

 
  • 33% (11)
    Use stock heatsink for now, order something better.
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    Order something better, leave system partially assembled until it arrives.
  • 57% (19)
    Take a Dremel to the case and make the H50 fit.
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post #41 of 48
I'm sorry but I'm going to be the first to say, I absolutely hate how that H50 is mounted, it looks ridiculous for such a small case, may as well have got a case that fits it. Not to mention your impeding the airflow with the hoses and the extra fan grilles.

I REALLY suggest cutting that case up to make it fit properly, will look soooo much nicer.

To each their own though
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To each their own though
Yup.. to each their own..

I actually like the way he managed to do it. Might not be the best for airflow your right, but aesthetically speaking I think it's better then how I have it mounted in my 1200.. I hate how it covers the i/o area of the motherboard personally. Who cares if its sticking out the back, nobody needs to be looking at the back end anyways. I've been looking at possibly doing the same sort of mod to mine sometime down the road.
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Originally Posted by zombo View Post
I'm sorry but I'm going to be the first to say, I absolutely hate how that H50 is mounted,
mmmm i dont mind it. looks alright..

zombo. does it fit between the psu and 5.25bays?
cut a fan hole intop and put it in their.. be pretty much hidden. exept the tubes going up their :]

EDIT: just read ur last pst... fair enough.. ^ just another way to mount it if u dont really like it hanging out the back. but yeh pretty much no 1 looks at the back. to me it stands out though. the rad hanging 50mm ( then rad + fan )

up 2 u :]
    
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Current Status

2203 Local 23 November 2010: At 4.015 GHz, stress testing complete, Folding@Home started. Some more cable sleeving done, decided it's worth the effort. Name changed.

Today's Activities


Today's update isn't so much what has been done today, but rather what has been completed today. Due to a rare but welcome day off of work yesterday, I had all day to overclock and test. I can run my target speed of 4.2GHz only at about 1.4750 volts core. Looks like I might not have gotten a good chip. No worries though; I've dialed it down to 4.015 GHz and it's 20+ hours of Prime95 blend stable.

I was a bit worried about temperatures. I was maxing out at 77C with stock thermal compound, but my core temperatures varied from 68C on Core #3 to 77C on Core #0. I reseated the H50 block today with a clean install of Arctic Silver 5, and now I'm at a max of 78C on Core #0 and a max of 68C on Core #3. Is a 9C to 10C difference in core temperatures normal for an i7 950? Surely this must be operator error?

No matter. While the testing was wrapping up, I decided to do a bit of cable sleeving. Since I only have one GPU installed, the PCI-e cables were the logical starting point. I favored a clean edge on the card side at the expense of a dirty job on the PSU side, as seen in the photos below:





Today's Conclusion


I've decided that given the remarkable difference in aesthetics, the entire PSU will be sleeved in the case. That's the right answer anyway, but until today I was really dreading the amount of work required. Bottom line - it's worth the effort. Tomorrow I'll do the second set of PCI-e power cables, then bring the system down to do the mainboard power cables after Thanksgiving.

Right now I'm running the Folding@Home SMP client and making good progress. I hope to burn through my first 10 units quickly so that I can get started with the -bigadv units soon.

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Originally Posted by zombo View Post
I'm sorry but I'm going to be the first to say, I absolutely hate how that H50 is mounted, it looks ridiculous for such a small case, may as well have got a case that fits it. Not to mention your impeding the airflow with the hoses and the extra fan grilles.

I REALLY suggest cutting that case up to make it fit properly, will look soooo much nicer.

To each their own though
I see where you're coming from, but I really think this is the better solution. I agree with you that it was poorly implemented, and I hope to rectify that in time. Note that the hoses and cables don't interfere with airflow nearly as much as you may think, and the open space in the bottom shroud before the intake fan should more than make up for any minimal loss of flow. Still, I agree that it could be cleaner and that to mount the radiators and fans inside the case would be the neater option. I'm just not willing to cut up this case yet, especially considering the terrible temperatures I'm getting with the radiator outside.

In short, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Digigami View Post
Yup.. to each their own..

I actually like the way he managed to do it. Might not be the best for airflow your right, but aesthetically speaking I think it's better then how I have it mounted in my 1200.. I hate how it covers the i/o area of the motherboard personally. Who cares if its sticking out the back, nobody needs to be looking at the back end anyways. I've been looking at possibly doing the same sort of mod to mine sometime down the road.
Thank you for that, but I can't take credit for the idea. Hitman came over last week and helped me get it set up, and without him I would probably have taken the Dremel to the case. No doubt my temperatures would have been worse, and I'm sure I would have been unhappy about having to cut the case up just to get things to work.

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post #45 of 48
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Originally Posted by kremtok View Post

I see where you're coming from, but I really think this is the better solution. I agree with you that it was poorly implemented, and I hope to rectify that in time. Note that the hoses and cables don't interfere with airflow nearly as much as you may think, and the open space in the bottom shroud before the intake fan should more than make up for any minimal loss of flow. Still, I agree that it could be cleaner and that to mount the radiators and fans inside the case would be the neater option. I'm just not willing to cut up this case yet, especially considering the terrible temperatures I'm getting with the radiator outside.

In short, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts
Fair enough then I'd personally remove the extra grille you have visible from inside the case, not really needed as nobody can get their fingers in there! Will make it a little quieter and better airflow

Nice job with the sleeving, tasty
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Current Status

1152 Local 27 November 2010
: First 10 -smp work units complete, starting -bigadv. No more sleeving since the last update, but it's still planned.

Recent Activities

The last few days have been spent mostly on the holiday while the computer stress tests and knocks out its first few work units. Just now I finished the 10th -smp work unit, and I shut down the client after results were sent, the restarted the computer. It's chugging along on its first -bigadv unit now, and I'm anxious to see how well this i7 950 will do at 4GHz.

Today's Conclusion

I'll let the -bigadv run for the next few days to establish a baseline of what the CPU can do on its own. Then I plan to add GPU clients; first one, then all three will be running. I may also knock the CPU client down to -smp7 to test the theory that leaving the 8th core free for the GPU is beneficial to Fermi cards. I'll do some more sleeving while all that's going on, then some time in the next week or two I'll pull the main cables and sleeve them. Hopefully the system will only be down for an hour or two while I do that. I've given up hope that I can do 60k PPD on this system alone, but I'm still hopeful of at least 40k. We'll have to see how she goes.

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Sweet sounds nice. Be nice to see temps when all folding together
    
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Current Status

2125 Local 02 December 2010
: First two -smp work units are complete, first GPU is up and folding. And crashing, apparently.

Recent Activities

Five days ago I started -bigadv folding, and in that time I've completed two work units to the tune of about 137k points. That works out to about 27k PPD, which isn't bad for running only the CPU and only at 4GHz.

After I finished the second -bigadv work unit tonight, I restarted the computer and set up the GPU3 client on the first GTS 450. I've picked up the same work unit as I had last time, Project 2686, and that's good because I can compare the time it takes to finish the -bigadv alone and with the GPU3 folding alongside. It took ~75 hours to complete this work unit the last time around, to we'll see how it goes.

I'm running the GTS 450 at stock sppeds and 50% fan at the moment. GPU usage is at about 95% and fluctuating down, probably because I have the CPU core priority set higher than the GPU. Temperature of the GTS 450 is a cool 45C, which is great when compared to the 62C on the computer downstairs.

Damn. It just got a NAN crash on the GPU3. I thought it was crunching a bit too quickly - Project 6800 was performing at about 3 mintues between percentage points. My GTS 450 downstairs takes 14 to 15 minutes to make the same progress. Looks like I'll have to keep an eye on this thing. I suppose the good news is that I have two more cards sitting next to me ready to be swapped in if this one appear to be unstable.

That's two NAN crashes now as I've been typing this. Not a good sign.

On another note, I've taken some photos of my BIOS settings in vain hope that I can bring down voltages and temperatures on the CPU.









Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Also, that's three NAN crashes now. Should I shut down the SMP2 client and see how the GPU3 client runs on its own? This might be a question for the Folding@Home subforum, but if you have some insight please share.

Today's Conclusion

Looks like some GPU swapping is in my near future. A becalmed GPU on my Windy is not conducive to folding success.

Thanks for watching, folks



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