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I personally can see a huge Performance Leap with the Games Directly contacting the drivers as it doesnt have to trapes through windows GDI subsystem..This should be good
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Your mobo has to be HDCP compliant as well, and wouldn't ya know, there are currently NO motherboards that are! IMO if MS wanted to force us to use HDCP they should have required it with Vista but introduced it years ago to allow people to slowly make the shift. Currently the only things that don't need to be Vista compatible are your disk drives, PSU and RAM! And obviously your case and keyboard/mouse etc. but seriously, you are going to need a new:

Monitor
Mobo
GPU
CPU (64 bit and a few other things required)


And bear in mind, there aren't any low end parts in these categories that are going to cut it, the only HDCP compliant monitors for example are the VERY high end (try the 30in Dell LCD for example, we're talking $1,000+ range mostly) and as far as GPUs go, think DX10 for full Vista fun lol.
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Your mobo has to be HDCP compliant as well, and wouldn't ya know, there are currently NO motherboards that are! IMO if MS wanted to force us to use HDCP they should have required it with Vista but introduced it years ago to allow people to slowly make the shift. Currently the only things that don't need to be Vista compatible are your disk drives, PSU and RAM! And obviously your case and keyboard/mouse etc. but seriously, you are going to need a new:

Monitor
Mobo
GPU
CPU (64 bit and a few other things required)


And bear in mind, there aren't any low end parts in these categories that are going to cut it, the only HDCP compliant monitors for example are the VERY high end (try the 30in Dell LCD for example, we're talking $1,000+ range mostly) and as far as GPUs go, think DX10 for full Vista fun lol.
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Your mobo has to be HDCP compliant as well, and wouldn't ya know, there are currently NO motherboards that are! IMO if MS wanted to force us to use HDCP they should have required it with Vista but introduced it years ago to allow people to slowly make the shift. Currently the only things that don't need to be Vista compatible are your disk drives, PSU and RAM! And obviously your case and keyboard/mouse etc. but seriously, you are going to need a new:

Monitor
Mobo
GPU
CPU (64 bit and a few other things required)


And bear in mind, there aren't any low end parts in these categories that are going to cut it, the only HDCP compliant monitors for example are the VERY high end (try the 30in Dell LCD for example, we're talking $1,000+ range mostly) and as far as GPUs go, think DX10 for full Vista fun lol.
What Mobo has to be HDCP too!!!
Like I said before, this is good for the companies but hurts the customers hard. I glad these is still Linux.
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And bear in mind, there aren't any low end parts in these categories that are going to cut it, the only HDCP compliant monitors for example are the VERY high end (try the 30in Dell LCD for example, we're talking $1,000+ range mostly) and as far as GPUs go, think DX10 for full Vista fun lol.

At the moment no. But once Vista comes out expect many more products to support new technologies.
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Gah, of course XP and 2003 support will continue.

But the more threads I read around here the more I am absolutely SHOCKED by the sheer ignorance or reliance on "ah, I read it on the intraweb, therefore it must be true."

XP has Home support for Vista + 2 years. Pro for Vista + 7 years.

2003 will be Blackcomb + 7 years more than likely.

I just keep tripping over absolute gossip crap time and time again and get irritated (like the 800mbfootprint of Vista...)
I have it installed on two machines. Not even CLOSE to that. (One is actually smaller than XP with Aero turned off.)

HDCP is NOT required. I am typing this on a Beta Vista system using a Dell2001FP monitor on a 6600GT video card on an A8n32 mobo.

I am just sick of reading CRAP by people that have not even USED Vista and have no idea what its requirements are.

Edit:

I am starting to think that sites like theenquirer are actually decreasing the total IQ of the 'net world. Seriously.

DOes anyone do their own research?

Just read **** and assume it is true?
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Your mobo has to be HDCP compliant as well, and wouldn't ya know, there are currently NO motherboards that are! IMO if MS wanted to force us to use HDCP they should have required it with Vista but introduced it years ago to allow people to slowly make the shift. Currently the only things that don't need to be Vista compatible are your disk drives, PSU and RAM! And obviously your case and keyboard/mouse etc. but seriously, you are going to need a new:

Monitor
Mobo
GPU
CPU (64 bit and a few other things required)


And bear in mind, there aren't any low end parts in these categories that are going to cut it, the only HDCP compliant monitors for example are the VERY high end (try the 30in Dell LCD for example, we're talking $1,000+ range mostly) and as far as GPUs go, think DX10 for full Vista fun lol.

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Your MB dos NOT have to be HDC compliant. Where the hell did you read that?
Nor does any other aspect of your system.

If you want to playback Blu-Ray or HD-DVD you will want it. WANT IT. Not REQUIRE IT. And MS suddenly has control of blu-ray specs? Or all the specs for HD-DVD (which I think are owned by Toshiba)? These are specs that MS has to react to - so blame everyone trying to lock down content, not just MS.

And Vista will run on 32 bit JUST FINE.

You may want a dual core because Vista is actually built with threading in mind.. but it is NOT REQUIRED.

The GPU requirement is a DRIVER requirement for high end features. There are loads of video cards already on market that support it just fine. You only need a Directx9 video card.

I have installed Vista on a CELERON D with a 64 on board video card. And it didn't cause a fire!

Gah. GAH.

I think the internet just breeds stupidity.
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Woot! Who's better at gaming now Xbox 360
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stick with xp......it works fine for me.....and what IS the point of chanign to vista besides form halo 2? i am not gona change cos i got dx9 card and cannot be bothered / afford t get a new one
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Hey, I got a free PCMag for some reason and read this same article, but I was really more interested in the transparent integrated circuit.
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