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Why is it bad if they charge you to unlock processor? It's not like you have to pay them. And it is a good way to increase the life of you system. Instead of buying a new processor for $XXX, you can just unlock your current one for $30


Just wait for the 6th, when the NDA expires.

Jean says that it should be a signifigant improvement
i dont care about Jean, he's a stuck up pretentious ...erm...guy?


and thats just going against the whole principles of computing..we've been able to freeley overclock our CPU's no matter what they were..and then intel's coming out with the locked and the unlocked cpus. its like they dont even want us to overclock.

but little do they know, overclocking gives them good publicity.
 
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i dont care about Jean, he's a stuck up pretentious ...erm...guy?


and thats just going against the whole principles of computing..we've been able to freeley overclock our CPU's no matter what they were..and then intel's coming out with the locked and the unlocked cpus. its like they dont even want us to overclock.

but little do they know, overclocking gives them good publicity.
It isn't locked

you can still overclock, just not very far.

I shall explain in more detail:

Every thing is now controlled by the BLK (FSB as you call it). EVERYTHING, this includes PCIe, CPU, USB controllers, Southbrige, etc.

Many of these things do not like to be overclocked AT ALL. PCIe frequency for example cannot tolerate more than a few MHz.

As you can imagine, raising the BLK will raise EVERYTHING in the system, Including stuff like PCIe.
So if you go too far, stuff like PCIe will become unstable

It is not like intel does want us to overclock, then are just making their chipset more efficient.

Since the BLK cannot be adjusted much, intel is releasing unlocked chips at affordable price points ($220 for the i5 2500K).
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Okay i understand that, but honestly why would intel put everything on the BLK then?
 
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It is more efficent for a large percentage of their market.

Overclocking people make up a tiny percentage of their sales. For normal non-overclockers, it is faster to integrate more things.

And for enthusiasts, they released affordable unlocked procs.
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It is more efficent for a large percentage of their market.

Overclocking people make up a tiny percentage of their sales. For normal non-overclockers, it is faster to integrate more things.

And for enthusiasts, they released affordable unlocked procs.
Maybe so. and where do you think the 980x sales came from? enthusiast sales. and from what i see, a good portion of the 980x's sold.
 
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There is no extreme edition part for 1155 yet.

I don't really see where that arguement is going.

If you want high overlocking, 1155 is not going to do it for you. Most chips can reach their max (about 5.3ish GHz) on air/water
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There is no extreme edition part for 1155 yet.

I don't really see where that arguement is going.
its going in the direction of me arguing your statement that enthusiasts make up a small area of intel's sales..where really all of us make up a huge area of their total sales
 
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Relative to OEM sales, Enthusiast sales are tiny.

Why can't you just buy a K processor, what is the big deal?
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Relative to OEM sales, Enthusiast sales are tiny.

Why can't you just buy a K processor, what is the big deal?
I agree what is the big deal. if the cpu/mobo is the right price on newegg, i will be
 
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FRY's computer (looked at it myself) says that the i5 2500K will be $219.

Seems pretty reasonable to me considering it will kick the ass of pretty much anything else in that price range
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