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Very informative thread!
Glad to have helped. And as always if anyone else has more information to contribute I welcome it.
     
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I do have a quick question though, how beneficial is a gaming laptop (my case, its a Sager NP8130) to have a SSD over a 7200RPM HD?
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I do have a quick question though, how beneficial is a gaming laptop (my case, its a Sager NP8130) to have a SSD over a 7200RPM HD?
From what I've heard it depends on the quality of the drive. The random read/write and access time latency should be better in the SSD but sometimes they aren't. You need to have the specifics about each drive to make a comparison that you can have some certainty with. The cons from SSDs are the price and having to worry about wear and trim. I'm not sure about their lifetime either. The pros are usually faster and should use less power. I'd hit up the HDD section for people with this as their particular focus. They can give you definite answers.
     
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I do have a quick question though, how beneficial is a gaming laptop (my case, its a Sager NP8130) to have a SSD over a 7200RPM HD?
You wont get any more fps.. Except on saving parts (like on crysis it will dip down to half your fps when it saves)

It will add like 10% more battery life to your laptop + quicker load times in games. I would personally put a 120 gb ssd in it, not one of the new ssds though, something from last year like a intel g2.

Use it for your OS+frequently used programs, then buy an external drive for movies and such, or you can rip your optical drive out and have both an SSD and HDD in at the same time..
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Thanks for the information, it is worth reading.
No problem. Welcome to the site!
     
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Thanks to the OP for listing the pros of cons of notebookcheck. I started using them recently to get a feel of my options but I didn't know their data could be that variable.

I wanted to offer one minor contribution to this thread.


In my search for good reviews and articles about laptop considerations a lot of the major venues I go to for desktop parts are very weak for mobile. By dumb luck today I actually came across a dedicated mobile site and the first article I read was fairly informative and insightful. Because of how much trouble I was having finding a source of information on general knowledge, let alone in depth technical knowledge, I have to give this a thumbs up.
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Thanks to the OP for listing the pros of cons of notebookcheck. I started using them recently to get a feel of my options but I didn't know their data could be that variable.

I wanted to offer one minor contribution to this thread.


In my search for good reviews and articles about laptop considerations a lot of the major venues I go to for desktop parts are very weak for mobile. By dumb luck today I actually came across a dedicated mobile site and the first article I read was fairly informative and insightful. Because of how much trouble I was having finding a source of information on general knowledge, let alone in depth technical knowledge, I have to give this a thumbs up.
Eh. That link turned me off since they didn't mention Sager among other companies. The fact that they ranked Sony and Apple highly also irks me. Customer satisfaction is sadly something I wouldn't include in a rating system without getting more in depth on categories such as user base, the user's tech knowledge, ect. Apple has great reviews because they really have an awesome PR system to lull people into liking them. There's no way around the fact that Apple along with some of the other big brands in the link play on the ignorance of the consumer. I've dealt with Apple before and if you don't want to know what's wrong with something then they're great.

But I'll toss in your recommendation with a brief caution. They seem a little less in depth and their testing methodology much more surface. However, they cover other areas worth consideration so I think including them as a secondary source is a good idea. Thank you for the find.

Notebook check has to have that variability I think because of how different to similarly equipped laptops can be based on RAM, resolution, HDD, and even the type of VRAM used with a GPU choices made by the manufacturers. But again I'm pretty sure they state what the test scenario is that their results come from.
     
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The only sad thing about this thread is how few people actually take the time to read it and then ask a question to which this probably would help them answer... >.o

Good read. Needs to be bumped every now and then to make sure some people see it I think.
     
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The only sad thing about this thread is how few people actually take the time to read it and then ask a question to which this probably would help them answer... >.o

Good read. Needs to be bumped every now and then to make sure some people see it I think.
I hope you realize you cannot bump a sticky.
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Thanks guys. I don't care if it can't be bumped. I'm just hoping that more people read it and then with the information provided make up their own minds. But, it feels good to know that people realize it's here.

And as always I'm open to any suggestions on other places to get information from.
     
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