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post #21 of 27
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Is it okay if I get the Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1600C8D if I can't find Mushkins? And pricing-wise, which is the cheaper option?

Oh and uh, what are heatsinks for? Does it come with the RAM or do I have to get it separately? Sorry for all the noob questions haha!

Oh and what about the fans?
post #22 of 27
I've never been able to find the types of RAM available here that they have in the US, so I'll let someone else answer the RAM question (sorry, but I have no experience here, and it could be either of us looking up relevant reviews, so you will probably have better luck as I have to go out soon).

Heatsinks keep things cooler. If we're talking about RAM heatsinks, quite often what you'll get on cheaper ram sticks will be heatspreaders... Basically, when RAM runs, it warms up. If you overclock it, it'll warm up even more. Sometimes it gets very hot. Heatsinks/spreaders prevent this by keeping the RAM cooler.

Keeping it at cooler temperatures will make it last longer etc. etc.

Basically, they're good to have, and usually come with RAM.

Similar results on both CPU and GPU, but after-market GPU Coolers are rare and don't often give a huge performance increase (unlike cpus).
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Not sure where you're from but you should be able to find a Mushkin reseller in many places try this link for a list of who they are here.

The Corsair Dominators have to have the tops removed from the first 1 or 2 sticks to fit under the Noctua NH-D14 so it's preferable to get RAM where the RAM+heatsink will fit properly and the Mushkin RAM does this.

The heatsinks come on the RAM and they just help for heat dissipation to stop your RAM overheating and to prolong lifespan as Korlus said. The Mushkin RAM is great and if you want to see a video review with a guy explaining how to choose Mushkin RAM then check this video,

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Lastly Mushkin RAM is well priced usually and very competitive . About the fans I'd get your case first and set everything up, see how the airflow is and how much space there is where the extra fans would go and so on. If the airflow is fine you wont need them, if you feel it could do with more and the fans can fit without being obstructed then go for it, check the air flow they can push or pull and the noise level in dB, also colours if that matters for you! An example for you is, I'm getting the NZXT Phantom case and have read that more than likely with the Noctua NH-D14 I wont be able to fit in a 200mm fan into the side so I don't even have to think of buying one . You can find out more in advance if you wanted to before getting the case by reading reviews or build logs of people with the Haf-X .

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Nvidia cards are generally regarded as better for photo heavy applications and maya i'd plump for a GTX 480/580 if you have the cash.
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post #25 of 27
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Okay guys. Thanks for all the input. I've revised my build and now this is my newest vers.

Display:Samsung PX2370
CPU:i7 950
Mobo: Asus Rampage III formula
GPU:EVGA GTX 580
PSU: COrsair HX850W
OS:Win7 Home Premium x64
RAM: Mushkin DDR3 PC3-12800 6-8-6-24 Ridgeback
Case: Coolermaster HAFX
Cooler: Thermalight Silver Arrow OR Noctua NH-D14 or Coolermaster V8.

I've read good reviews about the thermalight, what are your thoughts?

Oh and uhm, I've read about needing stuff like surge protectors, network interface cards, WiFi and USB2 cards. (I didn't know I needed so many stuff) O_O
post #26 of 27
All checks out. Of the three coolers the Noctua is the most effective over the range of temperatures, so if you're overclocking or your CPU puts out higher heat the Noctua wins out. In certain situations one of the others may edge the Noctua but the fact is unless they were significantly cheaper there's no point in considering them over it for now. The Noctua is a solid and proven cooler backed by a very good company.

Surge protectors, yes it's advisable to use one. I myself use the top Belkin ones, they're about £18 over here so maybe $30 or so but very worth while. Get one of the top end 6 or 8 socket ones that way you can plug in your computer, monitor and anything that needs charging eg. wireless stuff, phones etc.

Your motherboard has an ethernet port for wired internet access. If you want Wi-Fi you'll have to buy a Wi-Fi card to slot in, they're fairly cheap, but I've always said ethernet > WiFi always... and if you're stationary then using WiFi on a desktop is sort of silly. Even if you were LAN gaming you'd expect the person or people to have a router for your ethernet cable.

Your MoBo has USB 2.0 sockets and even has USB 3.0 as well. If you check this image,

The ports can be seen, and these will be at the back of your case. You will/should also gain access to some USB ports and headphone jack etc on the front of the HAF X. I hope you feel you're ready to learn etc for your build and that it goes smoothly.
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Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 120GB Samsung SpinPoint F3 2x1TB RAID 0 Western Digital Elements 2TB External Sony AD7260 
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Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Professional x64 Dell Ultrasharp U3011 Filco Majestouch-2 Tenkeyless UK 
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post #27 of 27
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Alrighty! Hopefully my dad doesn't go bonkers over the overall price haha!
Edited by Freakmind - 11/25/10 at 12:15am
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