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Thank for contributing.

When a cpu is proven to compute more operations per second and a benchmark is compiled with a certain architecture in mind, it will obviously run better on that architecture. For example... Playstation 2. You can run an emulator for it on PC now but to get even decent performance you'd need a pretty high end system whereas the processor in the console was pretty slow by todays standards. It's just the way things work.
Get an Intel chip?
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post #312 of 3550
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Get an Intel chip?
AMD drones always give a good laugh. Instead of taking all that time to write that poetry, he could have researched why Intel setups get higher GPU and CPU scores at 3DMark's P settings.
 
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wow all this from one guy asking for a TAB for AMD scores I shoul dhave kept my mouth shut
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post #314 of 3550
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Um... you are not understanding what I meant. AMD and Intel have severely different strategies when it comes to putting out a CPU. Per price point, AMD cpus are competitive. This is fact. Just because Intel has the fastest cpu overall, does not mean they have the fastest per price point. The fact is, in a lot of tests, the X6 is more in line with a 920 per se at stock clocks. What I am saying is that me having an X6 should not cause a 3000 point difference over someone with the same GPU with an Intel cpu... that does not make sense for a GAMING benchmark when in the realworld, framrate difference is negligible. That means this benchmark misleads people into thinking they will get a 30% increase in performance by buying an i7 920 for gaming over an X6 which is not the case. I am no fanboy, I buy whatever the best Performance per dollar is, as I have had i7s, check my sig dude. Trust me, I know. There isn't much for actual gaming, so there is definitely something else happening in this bench that seems to favor Intel since the bench is synthetic.
I understand just fine, what the hell does price/performance have anything to do with what we were talking about? We were only talking about performance clock for clock.

And where are you getting 3000 point differences? Not sure what you are smoking, but my I7 setup at 4.0ghz and two 5870's in Xfire got 8500, your score was ~7300 with a 5970 and 1055t at 3.9xghz. What clocks was your 5970 at? my 5870's were at 1000mhz core clock, which I doubt yours were even that high. So if the score difference is even 1000 points between intel and AMD I'd be surprised, and this is all because the intel CPU is the stronger CPU, not because this bench is intel ''biased''
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I understand just fine, what the hell does price/performance have anything to do with what we were talking about? We were only talking about performance clock for clock.

And where are you getting 3000 point differences? Not sure what you are smoking, but my I7 setup at 4.0ghz and two 5870's in Xfire got 8500, your score was ~7300 with a 5970 and 1055t at 3.9xghz. What clocks was your 5970 at? my 5870's were at 1000mhz core clock, which I doubt yours were even that high. So if the score difference is even 1000 points between intel and AMD I'd be surprised, and this is all because the intel CPU is the stronger CPU, not because this bench is intel ''biased''
This from the person that compares a $1000 cpu to a $200 cpu...

As for everyone else... I have had both Intel and AMD processors... my point is that this is a benchmark and does not very well represent real world gaming performance and IMO is rather misleading.
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This from the person that compares a $1000 cpu to a $200 cpu...

As for everyone else... I have had both Intel and AMD processors... my point is that this is a benchmark and does not very well represent real world gaming performance and IMO is rather misleading.

Once again, this was never a price for performance argument until you made it one. The I7 quads still easily beat the AMD hex cores in virtually all benches and real apps clock for clock, I just gave the intel hex core as showing you what 6 cores of intel will do to AMD.

I just compared my I7 950 to your 1055t, those are practically the same price (microcenter=$200 for the 950) so what do you have to say about that now?

And once again, there was only a 1200 point difference in our setups both near 4ghz. What core clock was your 5970 at? If mine was higher, then the gap between AMD and intel is even less which is pretty true to real world performance.

BTW, I've also owned and benched a 1055t and a 1090t, and intel is easily and noticeably faster.
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Once again, this was never a price for performance argument until you made it one. The I7 quads still easily beat the AMD hex cores in virtually all benches and real apps clock for clock, I just gave the intel hex core as showing you what 6 cores of intel will do to AMD.

I just compared my I7 950 to your 1055t, those are practically the same price (microcenter=$200 for the 950) so what do you have to say about that now?

And once again, there was only a 1200 point difference in our setups both near 4ghz. What core clock was your 5970 at? If mine was higher, then the gap between AMD and intel is even less which is pretty true to real world performance.

BTW, I've also owned and benched a 1055t and a 1090t, and intel is easily and noticeably faster.
You still don't get what I am saying. For one, My 1055T was 150 bucks... for two, I don't argue that intel is faster if you like to encode video or other professional software, thats what you pay the premium for. However in games, I don't see that this benchmark reflects real gaming performance. Also, not everyone lives near Microcenter. Closest thing we have: http://www.frys.com/product/5946114?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG



Mine: Radeon is at 900/1200 for reference.


So in this case 10% seems about right considering that my GPU is not bottlenecked by my CPU, only that I can't clock it to 1000/1250 because I don't want to explode it >_>. See that. 10% performance difference for 10% less gpu clock speed... don't mind the fact that his CPU is at 4.4ghz -_-

And to be honest, I probably would have gone intel had I not gotten the CPU for half the cost of the 950 and the mobo for 110... so that's $260. I saved 240 over an i7 950 and a decent board at the time. Which was in October.
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Why are you comparing AMD used prices VS intel new? You are the one thats biased not this benchmark

I bought an ASRock X58 extreme for $110 and the I7 950 for $230 (I don't have a microcenter near me either). So if you spent $260, I spent $340....so there's only $80 difference.

Now, my 5870's were at 1000 core clock. My I7 950 was at 4ghz. My score was ~8500. Your 5970 was at 900 and your 1055t at 3.96, your score was ~7300.

With my 5870's at 900 I probably would have scored right around 8000 most likely. Pretty close to 10% performance difference huh?

You are the ONLY one arguing price/performance. No one here cares, it's NOT why AMD is not up on the chart in this thread.
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Futuremark reads some of my frequencies wrong, look in CPU-Z and GPU-Z.
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