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I'm currently in the process of performing my first overclock on my P4 2GHZ cpu. I made one tiny adjustment to the FSB to start off and then realized that using the stock HSF may not be the greatest idea. My question is, should I invest in an aftermarket HSF before I go any further? Or if the stock cooling is good enough how far can I expect to push my cpu? Thanks!
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post #2 of 14
After market CPU coolers are always recommended for overclocking, but not nessacary. If you dont increase the vCore then it shouldnt get any hotter. You can OC with the original HS but keep an eye on thise temps.
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post #3 of 14
see how far you get before putting your money anywhere.
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post #4 of 14
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Thanks for the replies! As of now with hardly any overclocking done idle temps run about 44C and I'm not sure about under load because I don't know how to test that. That's how much of a newb I am, FYI. Does that sound normal for a P4 socket 478 cpu with a Northwood core? If not or if so, what kind of temps are allowable and when do they get too high? I guess I'm just worried about it since I haven't done this before. Thanks again.
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post #5 of 14
To test under load, get a program called Prime95. Install it and to test your system you can do any of the following:

Large FFT's in Place - This is to find the absolute MAX temp for your CPU

Mixed - I usually run this to test my temperatures under normal conditions and to test the stability of the CPU.

The last tests your RAM to a reasonable extent. I rarely use this because I have linux installed, thus have memtest86 on hand.
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Ah yes, others have mentioned the same program. I just downloaded it so I'll do some testing and post results. Thanks!
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post #7 of 14
Also use this program as well http://www.memtest86.com/

This tests your memory modules within the DOS shell, prior to loading the operating system.

Its very good at isolating memory issues.
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post #8 of 14
Im using the stock cooler that came in the Compaq machine that my P4 is from. add in a dob of silver paste and I get 42-44 idle 55-58 loaded

mind you tho, Im ordering either an SI-120 or Big typhoon this weekend
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post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by BugBash
Im using the stock cooler that came in the Compaq machine that my P4 is from. add in a dob of silver paste and I get 42-44 idle 55-58 loaded

mind you tho, Im ordering either an SI-120 or Big typhoon this weekend
Def SI-120 imo But im sure the other forum users will go for the BT

Should be able to knock around 10*C off your temps with either cooler tho
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post #10 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by BugBash
Im using the stock cooler that came in the Compaq machine that my P4 is from. add in a dob of silver paste and I get 42-44 idle 55-58 loaded

mind you tho, Im ordering either an SI-120 or Big typhoon this weekend
Those temps are too high for my taste. I have a Northwood 3.0GHz, and it idles ~38C and load ~48C. My cooler is a ZALMAN CNPS7000B-ALCU.

For either cooler, make sure it fits in that Compaq case. They're both pretty big. The SI-120 is 90mm + 25mm for a standard 120mm fan, total 115mm (~4.5 inches). The BT is 103mm + 25mm for the fan, total 128mm (~5 inches)

Also, when you have that case open, check general airflow, cable management, and so on. You might want to look into an extra case fan or two (if space)

Finally, don't forget your AS5
    
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