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I have been deciding about switching from my 19" NEC CRT to one of the new low ms 19" LCD's. So far its been between the Samsung 904BF, the Viewsonic VX922 and the BenQ FP93GX. I was doing some googling and came up with the link above from a forum discussing LCD's and the disadvantages with FPS games.

The main points were native resolution and refresh rate. The LCD's I looked at all have a native resolution of 1280x1024 and 75mhz refresh rate. I play games at 1024x768 at 100mhz refresh rate. the logic being that higher refresh rates ease eyestrain and resolution is also a factor. I don;t think I;ve ever played any game at 1280x1024. Even though I have the hardware to run games and the highest resolutions, refresh rate is more important for my eyes as well as the fact that hi res makes me squint.

Considering that for $400 I can get one of the above LCD's or for $50 more I can get either an NEC or Viewsonic 21" CRT which I can run games at high refresh rates, I've decided not to go LCD until the refresh rates come up. Also, playing with the LCD I have at home on my second computer, I experimented with Vsync. LCD's really don't look as good outside of their native resolution regardless of hype.

That said, I'll stay with my CRT and put the money towards a second 7900gtx.
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Crt all the way. I use crt because of color and resolution on my eyes
    
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haha yea i used to like CRT too... but then i realized its the same thing only easier to carry to a LAN party.
not trying to hijack the thread or anything but whats the different between pixel pitches? does it make a difference, i mean wouldn't that just mean a lower max res.?
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Are you talking about maximum resolution or dot pitch? The lcds above vary between a .26 and .29 dpi whereas a good crt has a .25 or lower dpi.
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post #5 of 20
Hello,

CRT's give you the greatest flexability in setting resolution and refresh rate etc but are big and cumbersome.

The advantages of LCD displays is that altough they have a native refresh rate at say 75Mhz they dont have the scanning effect as there is no electron gun, all pixels are refreshable at the same time.

LCD's are digital displays where as CRT's are analogue. a digital monitor will tend to give crisper and brighter images than a CRT display

The native resloution can be a big hinderance tho
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i used to have a crt, but when i went to lcd the difference was amazing, i get no eye strain at all, the space you save is unbelievable. if you went lcd i doubt you would be unhappy imo
    
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i would recomend a tft honest they

they look better
eat less power
take up less room
come in hd
also flat screens

also u wont notice any diffrence realy :] apart from the size they look giant compared to crts i had a 17inch crt then whent to my screen and ohh its amazing :]
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post #8 of 20
I got my Mitsubishi 93SB CRT monitor for £25 about 3 months ago...
Nice display, good dot pitch and 1600x1200
You have to fork out quite a bit of dough for an LCD that does 1600x1200
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post #9 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by BugBash
I got my Mitsubishi 93SB CRT monitor for £25 about 3 months ago...
Nice display, good dot pitch and 1600x1200
You have to fork out quite a bit of dough for an LCD that does 1600x1200
And a beefy card to display that kind of resolution 1280x1024 is a bit more reasonable imo
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post #10 of 20
Major Tom hit it with the refresh rates. The way you think of it as it applies to CRTs can NOT be allpied to LCD. The strobe effect that causes fatigue and eye strain when using a lower refresh rate on a CRT is not "seen" on an LCD due to the whole screen refreshing at once and not line by line. Do not fear the 75MHz rate amigo. I play BF2 in 1280x1024 and it looks really nice.

Edit: I read the forum from the link you posted. Wow what a bunch of whiners. From the looks of it if you play CS you wont like an LCD. I do not play CS so I have no opinion. Why would you play a game in 800x600 anyways? I do not know if these guys are afraid of change, do not understand the differences in the way LCDs and CRT use refresh rates or if CS just looks and plays that crappy on an LCD but they do not like the idea of TFT. One went so far as to say his mouse did not respond the same when using a TFT panel. How your display affects your mouse movement is beyond me.

Good luck with the choice amigo. I like mine.

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