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Hello to all. I am new here and have been using this website for info for overclocking for a couple of years now but this is my fist post. I would consider myself knowlgefull hobiest when it comes to computers but i would like some opinions on where i should go next.
I have a couple hundred dollars buring a hole in my pocket and i feel the sytem has a qwerk that need adressing.
Here are some pics of my bios settings and my new migration from a Antec three hundred into the HAF X
http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o...n444/Computer/
3DMark results
http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15071324
This is what i have now:
Cooler Master HAF X case
Windows 7 ultimate 64
Intel Q9550 @ 4.0Ghz 24/7 (471X8.5; 1884 FSB @1.3625v)
OCZ 4gig kit(2x2gb) DDR3 Platnum PC3-12800 7,7,7,24 @ 1.7v
Gigabyte GA-EP45C-UD3R
Corsair H-70
Palit GTX 460 Sonic 1Gb GDDR5
OCZ 700W PSU
Cooler Master 3x5.25-4x3.50 drive bay converter w/fan
4x7200rpm 500Gb in Raid 10 (Data storage)
2x7200rpm 160Gb in raid 0 (System)
1X7200RPM 80Gb (Dump Drive)

This is on the way:
XFX Nfidia 790i ultra MoBo (Found for $130.00 NIB)
Palit GTX 460 Sonic 1Gb GDDR5 (for 2way SLI)
Acer’s GD235HZ (I would like to try 3D gaming/movies)
*I also have a PNY GTS 250 1Gb GDDR3 (Don't know if it would work with 3way SLI?)


Uses:
A/V Media Server for PS3, X-Box 360, Sonos, Other computers in my house and my phone sometimes.
Gaming Rig
Media Player



My concerns:
1. PSU will not be able to sustain another Vid card and 4 more HDD, side note Chassis has total of 2x230mm, 4x120mm, 1x200mm fans + psu fan
2 I feel for the games i play, WOW and crysis, it could be better. In wow I get 60fps(Vert. sync) when i start but by the time i get into a dungon or a some where taxing it goes down to the 40s and sometimes the 30s. I understand that with vert. sync on i will never get more than 60fps but i thought it would be able to maintain 60fps everywhere with my current set-up. I am wrong...
Now i have ordered another M/B so i can run SLI and hopefully make crysis more playable and wow more consistant
Maybe everything is ok and i expect to much? BTW:Resolution is 1920x1080 All features turned to ultra and every video option maxed in wow, and crysis will lock up after 10 min of gameplay when maxed out so i play on more conservative options(recomended).

If there is something i am being a blatant idiot about please enlighten me, otherwise any help is much appreciated.

Ehren
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post #2 of 7
The power supply is more then enough, and 460's in SLI should make both games more playable. you only really need vsync if you get a lot of tearing in games otherwise it only holds back your fps
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I turned off VSync didn't notice the FPS going up alot.It started off at 67 but then back down to 40's during hard gameplay. I was thinking there would b someway i could check computers abity through a benchmark or if there was something wrong with OC settings that someone would be able to look over for me. I have posted my bios settings (i didnt mount them to my post b/c i don't know you ppl feel about posting pics in post).
http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o...n444/Computer/
http://3dmark.com/pcmv/390930;jsessi...82DuaN34ve2jes
http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15071324
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
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Microsoft digital media pro Kingwin 1000w Coolermaster HAF X Razer Naga 
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ALso: Does anyone know if i can put the gts 250 in SLI with the gtx 460? and if it worth it?
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Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
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post #5 of 7
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Originally Posted by ehren444 View Post
Hello to all. I am new here and have been using this website for info for overclocking for a couple of years now but this is my fist post. I would consider myself knowlgefull hobiest when it comes to computers but i would like some opinions on where i should go next.
I have a couple hundred dollars buring a hole in my pocket and i feel the sytem has a qwerk that need adressing.
Here are some pics of my bios settings and my new migration from a Antec three hundred into the HAF X
http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o...n444/Computer/
3DMark results
http://3dmark.com/3dm06/15071324
This is what i have now:
Cooler Master HAF X case
Windows 7 ultimate 64
Intel Q9550 @ 4.0Ghz 24/7 (471X8.5; 1884 FSB @1.3625v)
OCZ 4gig kit(2x2gb) DDR3 Platnum PC3-12800 7,7,7,24 @ 1.7v
Gigabyte GA-EP45C-UD3R
Corsair H-70
Palit GTX 460 Sonic 1Gb GDDR5
OCZ 700W PSU
Cooler Master 3x5.25-4x3.50 drive bay converter w/fan
4x7200rpm 500Gb in Raid 10 (Data storage)
2x7200rpm 160Gb in raid 0 (System)
1X7200RPM 80Gb (Dump Drive)

This is on the way:
XFX Nfidia 790i ultra MoBo (Found for $130.00 NIB)
Palit GTX 460 Sonic 1Gb GDDR5 (for 2way SLI)
Acer’s GD235HZ (I would like to try 3D gaming/movies)
*I also have a PNY GTS 250 1Gb GDDR3 (Don't know if it would work with 3way SLI?)


Uses:
A/V Media Server for PS3, X-Box 360, Sonos, Other computers in my house and my phone sometimes.
Gaming Rig
Media Player



My concerns:
1. PSU will not be able to sustain another Vid card and 4 more HDD, side note Chassis has total of 2x230mm, 4x120mm, 1x200mm fans + psu fan
2 I feel for the games i play, WOW and crysis, it could be better. In wow I get 60fps(Vert. sync) when i start but by the time i get into a dungon or a some where taxing it goes down to the 40s and sometimes the 30s. I understand that with vert. sync on i will never get more than 60fps but i thought it would be able to maintain 60fps everywhere with my current set-up. I am wrong...
Now i have ordered another M/B so i can run SLI and hopefully make crysis more playable and wow more consistant
Maybe everything is ok and i expect to much? BTW:Resolution is 1920x1080 All features turned to ultra and every video option maxed in wow, and crysis will lock up after 10 min of gameplay when maxed out so i play on more conservative options(recomended).

If there is something i am being a blatant idiot about please enlighten me, otherwise any help is much appreciated.

Ehren
Welcome to OCN and I would love to see you post more often.

As far as Graphics Cards, the GTX 460 in SLI will most definitely run Crysis. WoW is a joke considering it is very light on the graphics cards.

No you aren't expecting too much, though you can expect your framerates to drop every once in awhile. But probably not that significant. If you aren't running WoW at a constant 60 fps after getting a second GTX460 then you probably have some sort of problem.

For the GTS250 you have the option to use it as a physx card. Basically a physx card just runs physx and takes off the load from your main two cards in SLI. You can NOT three way SLI a GTS250 to two GTX460s, but you can SLI two GTX460s and use the GTS250 as a physx card.

Your power supply will be able to handle SLI and probably a physx card too, but with all your hard drives too, I am not entirely sure how much power it will take. Try using this calculator to figure it all out.

Edit: I know the calculator doesn't have a physx card option, just add about 100-130 watts to whatever you get without it.

Edit 2: I did the calculation myself (I had to assume a few things, but it isn't too far off) and yes the 7 HDD seem to push you over the edge. You COULD do it though, but just barely. Your machine will require pretty much 700w on the dot. You might want to either drop the physx card or get a new PSU. If you just go SLI without physx then your PSU is perfect.
Edited by Airolden - 11/25/10 at 7:54am
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post #6 of 7
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Thank-you for the warm welcome
From what i have been reading, wow is a joke as far as game coding; and this is why i don't understand why wow runs so poorly. I was expecting, with the q9550, i would maintain 60 fps easily??Expecially being clocked to 4GHz??

I am going to get a better PSU, due to me not wanting to use more than 80% PSU power availabilty. I find that nothing likes to live past 80% for a long period of time. Expecially Power supplies. It would seem that i need a 1100w min (For 80% max usage) Could you recommend a 1200w PSU that isn't going to break the bank? Also, i am getting another 4x1Tb hdd's/raid 10 (10 total-going to ditch the dump drive) for my media storage soon (1080p bluerays take up ALOT of space)

Ehren
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ehren444 View Post
Thank-you for the warm welcome
From what i have been reading, wow is a joke as far as game coding; and this is why i don't understand why wow runs so poorly. I was expecting, with the q9550, i would maintain 60 fps easily??Expecially being clocked to 4GHz??

I am going to get a better PSU, due to me not wanting to use more than 80% PSU power availabilty. I find that nothing likes to live past 80% for a long period of time. Expecially Power supplies. It would seem that i need a 1100w min (For 80% max usage) Could you recommend a 1200w PSU that isn't going to break the bank? Also, i am getting another 4x1Tb hdd's/raid 10 (10 total-going to ditch the dump drive) for my media storage soon (1080p bluerays take up ALOT of space)

Ehren
This power supply is a very good value. It isn't cheaply made, it will last you a good while, and it is modular.

If for some reason you don't trust kingwin, there is always Corsair and you know they are good for a long while.

1200w is a LOT of power and VERY overkill for what you are going to use, a 1000w would give you more than enough headroom. Going the 1000w route, there is no better value than this Kingwin model. And of course if you want to go the Corsair route there is this 950w that isn't too expensive and is made by a more trusted brand.

I personally recommend the 1000w Kingwin for your needs.
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RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
4x4GB DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance Series Seagate 1.5TB 7200rpm Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 7200rpm Asus Optical Drive 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Raystorm Waterblock Black Primochill Tubing 1/2" ID / 3/4" OD XSPC RX240 XSPC Dual Bay Reservoir 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Swiftech MCP655 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Dell U2410 Das Model S Cherry MX Blue 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair TX850 NZXT Phantom Gigabyte M8000X Razer Goliathus 
Audio
Logitech X540 
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