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but it's not very price effective....the 6800GS agp is a better deal, if you can find it...
Yeah good point, they are not the cheapest of cards unless you really search about
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post #12 of 16
look $409 for the x850xtpe
http://www.directron.com/atix850xtpeagp.html
opposed to the $288 7800gs
http://www.directron.com/pvt70kuaf7.html
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Sorry to bug......What is the diffrence between AGP and PCI application???
Just to clear up on something: PCI and PCI express are not at all the same thing. Since we are talking about VID cards I suppose you meant what's the diff between PCIe and AGP. I'm not gonna enter too much detail, but the basic idea is this: PCIe is a serial bus, and AGP is a paralel bus. A couple of years ago, when frequencies were smaller than today, one way to improve bandwidth was to have more transfer lines in paralel. This is how PATA (paralel ATA) appeared and also AGP (1x, 2x, 4x and finaly 8x).
Nowadays we cam make chips that work at a much higher frequency, so in stead of putting more and more lines in paralel, we increase the frequency (or transfer rate) of the existing ones: see SATA, PCIe.
The serial interconections have a huge advantage: far easier to implement. Think only that a SATA150 interface for a HDD has 4wires, and the corresponding PATA133 has 80.
The PCIe has another advantage over AGP: you can place more cards in paralel: see SLI, Crossfire. With AGP this was not possible.
The last but not least advantage of the PCIe bus is the bandwidth. A x16PCIe bus @100MHz default speed has a bandwidth of 4.0GB/s, as for the AGP 8x it has 2100MB/s. This quite a serious difference, and newer games tend to use it at its full potential.
Hope that clears up some things, sorry for the non-academic language
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Yeah, for the money you are prob better sticking with the NVidia cards.

In the UK, X850XT's can be picked up for a much more reasonable price
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post #16 of 16
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Thanks for the help guys!!! I guess I will be looking forward to a PCI-E upgarde in the near future. I really do want to stick with nvidia as they seem to be the most prefered and I am only familiar with their products. My main concern is price. I live in Canada and I really can't get a card for the prices you guys are qouting me. The cards here are esily 1/3 more in cost. I would love to order form the U.S.A but the duty and shipping would make it pointless. Does anyone have expierience with international shipping??? I guess what I will be looking at is the 6600 gt , or the 6800 gs . Considering I use a 5200 g force fx now that would be a big step up. I am playing BF2 now and its gets choppy so I really am looking forward to better graphics. Regardless I need something as my card just won't cut it. I tried Ghost recon demo. yesterday and it wouldn't even run it!!!!
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