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DDR2 is necessary for Intel to continue with the legacy front side bus. There are many pro's to the legacy front side bus and Intel does not want to be stuck to control on the chip. Rather than do that, they will move to more and faster cache ram on the chip and a higher data transfer from chip to legacy controller which brings the need for DDR2 (and higher to come). As bus speeds increase to 1333 and beyond there will be a profound change in operational data completion rates.

AMD has no choice but to move to DDR2 because (and this is simple business) Intel has the clout to change the platforms of the DRAM industry. AMD is now being "informed" by the DRAM fab companies that they do not wish to fab both DDR and DDR2 and the pricing of DDR will increase as DDR2 decreases. Thus they have no choice but to make this move even though it matters not with the extra bandwidth they have even on the DDR platform.

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rambus was amazing.
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post #13 of 25
AMD should've just made their own low voltage DDR and upped the MHZ standards on motherboards a little while keeping decent timings. At least that's how it would be if I ran the world
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post #14 of 25
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Originally Posted by Malaziel
The thing is that DDR2 can offer little or no extra performance most of the time. In fact it is worse than DDR in many cases.
That's the point of the article. Its saying that the move to DDR2 is for marketing value because the average consumer will see it as an improvement, just based on the name.

I think that will be an effect of the move, but not the reason behind it.
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post #15 of 25
AMD is just keeping up with the market. Unfortunate and unfair, but what can you do. Hopefully AMD will come up something good despite these setbacks.
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post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by StepsAscend
That's the point of the article. Its saying that the move to DDR2 is for marketing value because the average consumer will see it as an improvement, just based on the name.

I think that will be an effect of the move, but not the reason behind it.
It's just like marketing cpu's in terms of ghz than thru benchmarks like FLOPs. I hope the upcoming am2 boards support regular ddr in dual channel that would pwn
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post #17 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by vsingh
It's just like marketing cpu's in terms of ghz than thru benchmarks like FLOPs. I hope the upcoming am2 boards support regular ddr in dual channel that would pwn

Unlikely. That will only add to the cost. Besides, RAM manufactures will stop production of DDR in the near future. It would be cool for benchmarks and to shut up the Conroe fanboys, but in the end it would be unpractical.
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post #18 of 25
Read this review and you'll see that the only DDR2-1000 offers the only true performance gain with Socket AM2 over low timing DDR

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2741

Overclocking is a must for AM2 in conjunction with DDR2
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post #19 of 25
Umm.. They are testing it as DDR2-800, not DDR2-1000.
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post #20 of 25
my bad, 800, 1000, i read it before btu didnt remember and didnt read it again to double check. My point wasnt so much what kind of DDR2 but the performance of DDR2 over DDR is slim until you get to the higher clocks
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