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post #10961 of 15204
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Originally Posted by reaver83 View Post


This is the primary reason I stick with AMD based systems.
First is backwards compatibility. Almost every new CPU they come out with will work in the older model Motherboards, AM2 compatible with 754, AM3 Compatible with AM2 socket, AM3+ compatible with AM3 Socket. They make it where you can do Gradual Upgrades whereas Intel makes different sockets for each generation and do not make it exactly clear which CPU's go in which of the sockets.... If I knew for sure which socket I needed for certain CPU's I might would have jumped onto the Intel Bandwagon this go around. 
Second, For every generation CPU Intel releases, they have a Huge speed drop with newer technology. As in the socket 478, they had a Prescott 3.4GHz HT Processor, but did not again achieve 3.4GHz factory in the Next Gen CPU's for another 2 years? Just seems like they rushed new technology. AMD on the other hand, though behind the curve as far as performance, have never released a new platform CPU that they did not match the performance of the best of the older technology with one of their newer technology CPU's. they Wait to make sure the new technology will be viable.
Lastly, AMD makes sure that as Technology comes out, the average person can afford to jump right in there, where as Intel has made it very clear that since they come out with power 1st, they should be able to overcharge for that power. Just cause it came out 1st does not mean it's better, IMO. For instance, What is the average running temps of a Intel Processor vs AMD? AMD Processors at load are made to  run up to 20C cooler than Intel Processors. Also, this gicves them a upper hand to be overclocked with higher potential power. But, in the end, AMD CPU's are less stable at higher temps, so that is mute.
Sadly, since there is more market for higher performance Intel CPU's, most Motherboard Companies tend to lean on fine tuning Intel based motherboards, whereas the AMD boards generally do not hold up well. Take for instance, the Motherboard I bought from Asus, the M4A87TD EVO. It is, in my mind equivalent to the P6X58D Premium, but performance wise, lacks the quality of design. There is definately no love for the AMD Enthusiasts out there. My board I have had to RMA due to faulty design of the Northbridge heatsink, only to have similar issues with a replacement board.

On a final thought, Like Mac Owners are to PC's, Intel Processors are to all computer owners. Just because it is the new Intel Processor, people will flock to buy it, Even knowing that it lacks in performance from the older models. Why? Because it's the New Intel Processor. Same reason Apple owners will buy a iPad knowing that any other tablet maker's tablets will run circles around the iPad, because it's the new Apple product. Looking at it in that perspective, Who's gonna buy the new Ivybridge Computers? I know I'm not a trend surfer.

I disagree with the Intel performance drop with new upgrades, the lower clock speed is because the speed of the newer architecture is there at a lower clock speed, while still maintaining a performance improvement. AMD has released a product that performs worse than their older models, Bulldozer is a perfect example of that. Now bulldozer may be faster at certain tasks, but from what I have seen its mostly out performed by the Phenom II series, even some of their APUs strangely enough.
Phantom 1.1.2
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Dell XPS L502X
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition unlocked to ... MSI 785GM-E51 XFX ATI Radeon HD5670 8GB Patriot Signature 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB WD10EVVS Western Digital WD Red 1TB WD10EFRX Cooler Master Hyper N520 Windows Home Server 2011 
MonitorPowerCase
Dell FP1504  650W Ultra LSP NZXT Tempest EVO 
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Intel Core i7 2630QM @ 2.0GHz Dell 0YR8NN nVIDIA GeForce GT 525M 1GB GDDR3 RAM 8GB (2x4GB) Nanya Technologies 
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Western Digital WD7500BPKT 7200RPM Sony Opartic Blu Ray Reader Stock Dell Heatsink and Fan Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 
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LG Philips LP156WF1--TLC1 Back-lit Keybaord 90Wh 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery  XPS L502X 
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Synaptics Track Pad JBL 2.1 Speakers 
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Phantom 1.1.2
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Dell XPS L502X
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition unlocked to ... MSI 785GM-E51 XFX ATI Radeon HD5670 8GB Patriot Signature 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB WD10EVVS Western Digital WD Red 1TB WD10EFRX Cooler Master Hyper N520 Windows Home Server 2011 
MonitorPowerCase
Dell FP1504  650W Ultra LSP NZXT Tempest EVO 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2630QM @ 2.0GHz Dell 0YR8NN nVIDIA GeForce GT 525M 1GB GDDR3 RAM 8GB (2x4GB) Nanya Technologies 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital WD7500BPKT 7200RPM Sony Opartic Blu Ray Reader Stock Dell Heatsink and Fan Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG Philips LP156WF1--TLC1 Back-lit Keybaord 90Wh 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery  XPS L502X 
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post #10962 of 15204
is xnine online? redface.gif
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2x4 GB Ripjaws X 10666 Sandisk SSD Extreme 480  Noctua NH-D14 Microsoft Windows 7  
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AOC E2752VQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Thermaltake Smart M650 Cooler Master Silencio 652S 
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RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
2x4 GB Ripjaws X 10666 Sandisk SSD Extreme 480  Noctua NH-D14 Microsoft Windows 7  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC E2752VQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Thermaltake Smart M650 Cooler Master Silencio 652S 
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Revoltec Fight Mouse Pro Nova Explorer Mouse Pad Logitech X-530 5.1 
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post #10963 of 15204
Looks like it, yes smile.gif
post #10964 of 15204
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Originally Posted by Rowey View Post

NZXT Anodized thumbscrews on their way. thumb.gif

Wait, what? They sell those?
Black and Yellow
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The mATX HTPC
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3570k ASRock Z77 OC Formula Inno3d GTX 680 16GB Avexir "MPower"  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
128GB Plextor M3 750GB Seagate Momentus XT Optical drive!? NEVARRRR EK Supremacy Copper/Plexi 
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EK XTX 360 EK DCP 4.0 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ASUS VS247H 
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Acer 23" CM Storm QuickFire Pro Corsair AX1200i Case Labs Merlin SM8 
MouseMouse PadAudio
CM Storm Sentinel Advance II Inno3d High Speed Large mousepad Roccat Kave 
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3770k Z77 Extreme6 Sparkle Calibre GTX X480 Samsung Green 30nm 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Plextor 128GB M3 Thermaltake WATER2.0 Extreme Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ASUS VS247H 
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Acer 23" CM Storm Quickfire Pro High Power Platinum Astro PT NZXT Switch 810 SE Gunmetal 
MouseAudio
CM Sentinel Advance II Corsair Vengeance 1500 
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Intel Core i3 2100 Z68MA-G45 (B3) (MS-7676) Radeon HD 4870 Samsung  
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Samsung  Samsung  Samsung  WD Caviar Green 
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Samsung Air D: Windows 7 Home Premium LG 32" 1080p HDTV 
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Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500w SilverStone PS07 NZXT Avatar S 
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Black and Yellow
(19 items)
 
Review Rig
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The mATX HTPC
(15 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3570k ASRock Z77 OC Formula Inno3d GTX 680 16GB Avexir "MPower"  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
128GB Plextor M3 750GB Seagate Momentus XT Optical drive!? NEVARRRR EK Supremacy Copper/Plexi 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EK XTX 360 EK DCP 4.0 Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ASUS VS247H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 23" CM Storm QuickFire Pro Corsair AX1200i Case Labs Merlin SM8 
MouseMouse PadAudio
CM Storm Sentinel Advance II Inno3d High Speed Large mousepad Roccat Kave 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k Z77 Extreme6 Sparkle Calibre GTX X480 Samsung Green 30nm 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Plextor 128GB M3 Thermaltake WATER2.0 Extreme Windows 7 Ultimate x64 ASUS VS247H 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 23" CM Storm Quickfire Pro High Power Platinum Astro PT NZXT Switch 810 SE Gunmetal 
MouseAudio
CM Sentinel Advance II Corsair Vengeance 1500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i3 2100 Z68MA-G45 (B3) (MS-7676) Radeon HD 4870 Samsung  
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Samsung  Samsung  Samsung  WD Caviar Green 
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Samsung Air D: Windows 7 Home Premium LG 32" 1080p HDTV 
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Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500w SilverStone PS07 NZXT Avatar S 
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post #10965 of 15204
Nope, but i bet its next on their "to-do" list. wink.gif
post #10966 of 15204
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Originally Posted by Erakith View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowey View Post

NZXT Anodized thumbscrews on their way. thumb.gif

Wait, what? They sell those?

LOL, no. He was just saying that the idea was going to spawn anodized thumbscrews. I was actually talking for my own personal build that I'd be ripping him off, lol.
post #10967 of 15204
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You're better off asking evil jerry smile.gif
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hey, Xnine did this big grommet exist for phantom? redface.gif
Dartu Rig
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Intel Core i7 2600k Asrock Z77 Extreme4-M ASUS Strix GTX970 2x4 GB Ripjaws X 10666 
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2x4 GB Ripjaws X 10666 Sandisk SSD Extreme 480  Noctua NH-D14 Microsoft Windows 7  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC E2752VQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Thermaltake Smart M650 Cooler Master Silencio 652S 
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RAMHard DriveCoolingOS
2x4 GB Ripjaws X 10666 Sandisk SSD Extreme 480  Noctua NH-D14 Microsoft Windows 7  
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
AOC E2752VQ Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Thermaltake Smart M650 Cooler Master Silencio 652S 
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Revoltec Fight Mouse Pro Nova Explorer Mouse Pad Logitech X-530 5.1 
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post #10968 of 15204

Dartuil, it did not.  I haven't seen any pictures anywhere showing that particular grommet.  I don't personally own a large Phantom (I did receive my SE 410 today), so it's hard for me to confirm, but all of the reviews and pics I've seen that grommet was not featured.

post #10969 of 15204
Whelp, finally caved and went and bought the supplies to get started on painting some of my components. Going to get started on everything in just a bit.

Here is my work log if anyone would like to see an updated view of my build: Work Log
post #10970 of 15204
I think watercooling is off the list. It's just something I don't want to get in to right now for some reason. I'm not a WCing enthusiast by any means and I'd hate to pour $500 into something that's not my prime.

Right now I wan't to do something about my monitor. It's either tri monitors or a single Yamakasi Catleap. I posted a thread in monitors but no bites. If I get triple monitors they'd have to be ~$150 and around 23-24". Anyone have recommendations?
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