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Hello overclock.net. First post here.

I'm planning on buying an black/orange phantom soon with my new build biggrin.gif I have a few questions.

1.) I've heard that installing the 200mm side fan can mess up airflow and even result in hot air not getting blown out the back of the case, is this true?
2.) If it isn't, is leaving the 200mm side fan uninstalled in order to fit a CPU cooler "OK"? Or should I go with the H100 and install a 200mm? Hell, what if I don't install the fan but use a H100 anyways? Or a Hyper 212+? What to do~ wheee.gif
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Originally Posted by KaielSu View Post

Hello overclock.net. First post here.
I'm planning on buying an black/orange phantom soon with my new build biggrin.gif I have a few questions.
1.) I've heard that installing the 200mm side fan can mess up airflow and even result in hot air not getting blown out the back of the case, is this true?
2.) If it isn't, is leaving the 200mm side fan uninstalled in order to fit a CPU cooler "OK"? Or should I go with the H100 and install a 200mm? Hell, what if I don't install the fan but use a H100 anyways? Or a Hyper 212+? What to do~ wheee.gif
1. no, it blows air directly over the motherboard and graphics cards. It made my CPU and GPU slightly cooler.
2. The side fan doesn't really matter; the case has great airflow anyway. Don't get a water cooler, they are overpriced.
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

1. no, it blows air directly over the motherboard and graphics cards. It made my CPU and GPU slightly cooler.
2. The side fan doesn't really matter; the case has great airflow anyway. Don't get a water cooler, they are overpriced.

This isn't very good advice.

The H100 is one of the top performers on the market. It trades blows with the top air coolers like the thermalright silver arrow. It's a personal preference thing, and the top-end of both segment are priced relatively similarly.

If you want to go closed loop, I would get something made by Asetek rather than CoolIT. Corsair use coolIT. Thermaltake use Asetek, as do Antec. The units are ever so slightly better than their CoolIT counterparts.

I don't use the side fan personally, I got a window installed instead.
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post #12474 of 15187
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

1. no, it blows air directly over the motherboard and graphics cards. It made my CPU and GPU slightly cooler.
2. The side fan doesn't really matter; the case has great airflow anyway. Don't get a water cooler, they are overpriced.

That is entirely relative to what you hope to achieve and what your willing to go through to do it. I think closed loops are fantastic for novice builders.

Also stock Intel cooler? Not exactly an expert are you?
 
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post #12475 of 15187
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That is entirely relative to what you hope to achieve and what your willing to go through to do it. I think closed loops are fantastic for novice builders.
Also stock Intel cooler? Not exactly an expert are you?
Air coolers are cheaper for roughly the same performance. If you don't mind the massive heat sink, there is no reason to go with a CLC.

You can tell cooler performance based on tests. You can be an knowledgeable on something without actually owning it.
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This isn't very good advice.
You will save quite a bit of money by going with something like an NH-D14 instead of an H100. You should note that you have to replace the fans on the H100 to make it silent.
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

Air coolers are cheaper for roughly the same performance. If you don't mind the massive heat sink, there is no reason to go with a CLC.
You can tell cooler performance based on tests. You can be an knowledgeable on something without actually owning it.
You will save quite a bit of money by going with something like an NH-D14 instead of an H100. You should note that you have to replace the fans on the H100 to make it silent.

Roughly is not the same. And as Erakith said your really spending about the same once you get to the top air coolers.

You will not get the same performance from the cheaper air coolers.

Reading test results is not the same as actually using a product. I wouldn't go around telling others how they should spend their money unless you really know what you're suggesting. They are both entirely different experiences.

On top of that loops look soo much better and make your case easier to work in.
 
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post #12477 of 15187
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Roughly is not the same. And as Erakith said your really spending about the same once you get to the top air coolers.
You will not get the same performance from the cheaper air coolers.
Reading test results is not the same as actually using a product. I wouldn't go around telling others how they should spend their money unless you really know what you're suggesting. They are both entirely different experiences.
On top of that loops look soo much better and make your case easier to work in.
The NH-D14 is $90 with quiet fans; the H100 is $110 with loud fans.
Yes, you will get almost the same results:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/corsair_hydro_series_h100/4.htm
The performance would also degrade if you switched to quiet fans.
I do actually own a water cooler on my GTX 480, so I know what owning one is like. I find that the tubes from it are really annoying to deal with. There isn't much to owning a heat sink other than its thermal performance and ease of installation, which is simple on both coolers.
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I don't entirely agree on what was said about not having the right to give purchasing advice on stuff you haven't yourself ever tried. I mean some stuff like I don't know an Asrock z77 extreme 4 or a CM 212+ (evo or whatever the best one is), curcial M4s, Samsung 830s, etc etc... are just known to be great. What you shouldn't suggest without having tried yourself though is mecanical keyboards (I for instance use a lycosa and I hate the blackwidow although everybody's saying how great mecanical keyboards are) or watercooling stuff, movies etc... (nothing to do with computers but I just hate how people tell you to watch a movie just because it's got good reviews).

Back to the topic:
Haven't ever seen a H100 on a friend's rig so I can tell but I'd rather throw in the extra cash and get a H100 than an expensive heatsink.
Firstly because I'd get worried about the stressing on the motherboard with a big heatsink (I know that sounds stupid but I'm sure I'm not the only one to worry about that although it's not going to snap your board or anything). And mostly because it'd look cleaner. It might even be better for airflow (having down in the bottom of the case) but that's just me guessing.

EDIT: and the ram thing as darlene said.
Edited by steelkevin - 7/23/12 at 4:45am
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Hey Guys im thinking of spray painting the grills all over the case the same color as the NZXT 200mm blue LED fan that come with the case and i want your opinion if it would look good or not???

hey dude check my profile i painted my grills white and it came up a treat! also i believe philly on here has painted the mesh grills on a 410 in a dark blue and it looks ok, the white i think is a better option as when the case it lite up it looks sooooo much brighter. But its so easy to do its not even funny! Just my 2 cents
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