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post #3721 of 15197
baby blue. the black with orange accents is already used for a special edition version of the case.
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post #3722 of 15197
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Originally Posted by xD3aDPooLx;14144270 
its overkill now and will be overkill later.

Deadpool, you do make a good point that it is overkill right now. However, I also remember saying how could you ever fill a 1GB hdd...What on earth would you need 1MB of RAM for...a system like that you would never outgrow...LOL.

So you can't really say that it would be overkill later because we really don't know. Plus, if he ever decides to bump up to a dual GTX-590 system because they drop the price, a 750W PSU would be struggling if it works at all.

As far as power consumption and your electric bill, just because it says it's a 1000W, it doesn't mean that it is drawing a constant 1000W. That is just what it is capable of going up to. In fact, if you have two identical systems, except one has a 750W and the other a 1000W, and you don't have enough in your system to draw on the full 1000W, you would hardly notice a difference in your bill (maybe a few cents per month). They only draw the power they need in order to run the components that are installed.

Based off of that, I would personally get a 1000W that way there is room for growth in the event you ever need it. Better to have and not need than to need and not have.
    
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post #3723 of 15197
Quote:
Originally Posted by xD3aDPooLx;14144270 
its overkill now and will be overkill later.

Nope. Never know what your going to wind up with!

DePontee
"As far as power consumption and your electric bill, just because it says it's a 1000W, it doesn't mean that it is drawing a constant 1000W. That is just what it is capable of going up to. In fact, if you have two identical systems, except one has a 750W and the other a 1000W, and you don't have enough in your system to draw on the full 1000W, you would hardly notice a difference in your bill (maybe a few cents per month). They only draw the power they need in order to run the components that are installed.

Based off of that, I would personally get a 1000W that way there is room for growth in the event you ever need it. Better to have and not need than to need and not have."

I thought I had read somewhere that they still draw more power. But when you think about it that doesn't really make sense. Why would it still draw more if its not doing anything with it.
Edited by num1son - 7/8/11 at 7:27am
 
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post #3724 of 15197
I just bought an xspc rs 240 but i haven't got a clue how to mount the rad under the 2x200mm fan holes, i know your supposed to use the brackets supplied with the phantom but i just don't get it. so i was kinda hoping someone here could help me or even show me pictures. any help will be very much appreciated.
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post #3725 of 15197
Quote:
Originally Posted by num1son;14147157 
Nope. Never know what your going to wind up with!

DePontee
"As far as power consumption and your electric bill, just because it says it's a 1000W, it doesn't mean that it is drawing a constant 1000W. That is just what it is capable of going up to. In fact, if you have two identical systems, except one has a 750W and the other a 1000W, and you don't have enough in your system to draw on the full 1000W, you would hardly notice a difference in your bill (maybe a few cents per month). They only draw the power they need in order to run the components that are installed.

Based off of that, I would personally get a 1000W that way there is room for growth in the event you ever need it. Better to have and not need than to need and not have."

I thought I had read somewhere that they still draw more power. But when you think about it that doesn't really make sense. Why would it still draw more if its not doing anything with it.

Some do. Read all the stats before you buy one and make sure that it is a 80+ certified PSU. If it is not an 80+ then it could be a 50 for all you know. If that's the case, that means only 50% of your 500W PSU is actually being used for energy while the other 50% is disipated in heat. That being the case with a 500W PSU, that would mean that in order to achieve a 500W peak it has to draw 1000W in order to maintain its 500W peak. Hopefully, that explains the 80+ certification...Now about the max load. Take my PSU for example. I have a ToughPower 1050W that is rated 80+. In order to get that certification, it is tested at 20%, 50% and 100% loads and each test, the PSU must be putting out 80% power and only losing 20% or less to heat disipation. So, in turn, in order to do that, the PSU must be able to adjust for the ammount of power consumption. My computer is hooked to a 2000vac 1200W UPS/line conditioner. Its main purpose is to give me power backup if the power goes out and to keep the current at a constant in the case of brown-outs (I'm in Afghanistan and running off huge generators so that happens a lot). It has an added feature to it though that also tells me what my load is. With my computer up and running, along with two ASUS IPS monitors, I have yet to exceed 68% load and that's at start-up (usually, it hovers atound 22%). That tells me two things that could actually help him with his question on which PSU to buy. First, at full load, I am drawing 816W at full load and 264W at normal use. Second, this proves the point that if you are going to max out your HDD cages, run two over-clocked GTX-560Ti GPUs in SLI, and over-clock your CPU to 5.2GHz a 750W PSU would not work (remember 816W at full load)...Just food for thought.

EDIT...One more thought to keep in mind. When you are really making a huge system and using an extreme amount of power, try not to exceed a 1200W 80+ PSU. If you are in a newer house you might be able to get away with it, however, many older houses can't take that much amperage on a single line unless you are plugging it into an outlet that was meant for a refrigerator or some other high-amp utility. I've seen people fry the wires in their wall because they think they can just put a higher amp breaker in the box, forgetting that the wire itself can't take that much power-draw...Just another food for thought.
Edited by DePontee - 7/8/11 at 8:53am
    
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post #3726 of 15197
The phantom looks really awesome but i have a question i heard some of the reviews on newegg that the audio ports in the phantom are bugy and doesn't work is that true?
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post #3727 of 15197
Quote:
Originally Posted by Envadzer;14148180 
The phantom looks really awesome but i have a question i heard some of the reviews on newegg that the audio ports in the phantom are bugy and doesn't work is that true?

I haven't had any problems with mine.
    
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post #3728 of 15197
Quote:
Originally Posted by Envadzer;14148180 
The phantom looks really awesome but i have a question i heard some of the reviews on newegg that the audio ports in the phantom are bugy and doesn't work is that true?

I think they did a bad job when the designed the front panel PCB, because the audio ground and the USB ground are connected, so if your motherboard doesn't like that, you will hear static, or you will hear noise when there is activity on the USB ports.
I have that problem, I just don't have the USB hooked up. I don't care that much. Not a deal breaker for me.
post #3729 of 15197
Quote:
Originally Posted by DePontee;14147876 
Some do. Read all the stats before you buy one and make sure that it is a 80+ certified PSU. If it is not an 80+ then it could be a 50 for all you know. If that's the case, that means only 50% of your 500W PSU is actually being used for energy while the other 50% is disipated in heat. That being the case with a 500W PSU, that would mean that in order to achieve a 500W peak it has to draw 1000W in order to maintain its 500W peak. Hopefully, that explains the 80+ certification...Now about the max load. Take my PSU for example. I have a ToughPower 1050W that is rated 80+. In order to get that certification, it is tested at 20%, 50% and 100% loads and each test, the PSU must be putting out 80% power and only losing 20% or less to heat disipation. So, in turn, in order to do that, the PSU must be able to adjust for the ammount of power consumption. My computer is hooked to a 2000vac 1200W UPS/line conditioner. Its main purpose is to give me power backup if the power goes out and to keep the current at a constant in the case of brown-outs (I'm in Afghanistan and running off huge generators so that happens a lot). It has an added feature to it though that also tells me what my load is. With my computer up and running, along with two ASUS IPS monitors, I have yet to exceed 68% load and that's at start-up (usually, it hovers atound 22%). That tells me two things that could actually help him with his question on which PSU to buy. First, at full load, I am drawing 816W at full load and 264W at normal use. Second, this proves the point that if you are going to max out your HDD cages, run two over-clocked GTX-560Ti GPUs in SLI, and over-clock your CPU to 5.2GHz a 750W PSU would not work (remember 816W at full load)...Just food for thought.

EDIT...One more thought to keep in mind. When you are really making a huge system and using an extreme amount of power, try not to exceed a 1200W 80+ PSU. If you are in a newer house you might be able to get away with it, however, many older houses can't take that much amperage on a single line unless you are plugging it into an outlet that was meant for a refrigerator or some other high-amp utility. I've seen people fry the wires in their wall because they think they can just put a higher amp breaker in the box, forgetting that the wire itself can't take that much power-draw...Just another food for thought.

+1 for information!
 
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Windows7 Proffesional 64bit Acer 23" LCD Logitech G15 Corsair GS600 
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NZXT Phantom White Custom Mods Logitech G5 
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2500K ASUS P8P67 EVO Calibre GTX 480 Corsair Vengence 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 2 LG DVD What ever is being tested Windows 7 professional 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 23" Generic High Power Astro PT 700w Antec 900/TBD 
MouseMouse Pad
ooold Microsoft POS Wood 
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3770K Gigabyte G1.Sniper 3 SLI GTX Titans Samsung Green 30nm 16GB 
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Vertex 3 240GB raid0 WD Caviar Black 1TB Dual Loop Water Cooling Windows7 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Achieva Shimian 27" 1440p Acer 23" 1080p Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Mech Enermax Max Revo 1350 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 ASUS P5N-T EVGA GT 430 Patriot PDC24G6400ELK 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB LG Blu Ray/HD DVD Enzotech SCW-REV.A Swiftech MCR320-QP-K x2 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows7 Proffesional 64bit Acer 23" LCD Logitech G15 Corsair GS600 
CaseMouse
NZXT Phantom White Custom Mods Logitech G5 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
2500K ASUS P8P67 EVO Calibre GTX 480 Corsair Vengence 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 2 LG DVD What ever is being tested Windows 7 professional 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 23" Generic High Power Astro PT 700w Antec 900/TBD 
MouseMouse Pad
ooold Microsoft POS Wood 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770K Gigabyte G1.Sniper 3 SLI GTX Titans Samsung Green 30nm 16GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 3 240GB raid0 WD Caviar Black 1TB Dual Loop Water Cooling Windows7 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Achieva Shimian 27" 1440p Acer 23" 1080p Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Mech Enermax Max Revo 1350 
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post #3730 of 15197
Quote:
Originally Posted by DePontee;14147876 
Some do. Read all the stats before you buy one and make sure that it is a 80+ certified PSU. If it is not an 80+ then it could be a 50 for all you know. If that's the case, that means only 50% of your 500W PSU is actually being used for energy while the other 50% is disipated in heat. That being the case with a 500W PSU, that would mean that in order to achieve a 500W peak it has to draw 1000W in order to maintain its 500W peak. Hopefully, that explains the 80+ certification...Now about the max load. Take my PSU for example. I have a ToughPower 1050W that is rated 80+. In order to get that certification, it is tested at 20%, 50% and 100% loads and each test, the PSU must be putting out 80% power and only losing 20% or less to heat disipation. So, in turn, in order to do that, the PSU must be able to adjust for the ammount of power consumption. My computer is hooked to a 2000vac 1200W UPS/line conditioner. Its main purpose is to give me power backup if the power goes out and to keep the current at a constant in the case of brown-outs (I'm in Afghanistan and running off huge generators so that happens a lot). It has an added feature to it though that also tells me what my load is. With my computer up and running, along with two ASUS IPS monitors, I have yet to exceed 68% load and that's at start-up (usually, it hovers atound 22%). That tells me two things that could actually help him with his question on which PSU to buy. First, at full load, I am drawing 816W at full load and 264W at normal use. Second, this proves the point that if you are going to max out your HDD cages, run two over-clocked GTX-560Ti GPUs in SLI, and over-clock your CPU to 5.2GHz a 750W PSU would not work (remember 816W at full load)...Just food for thought.

EDIT...One more thought to keep in mind. When you are really making a huge system and using an extreme amount of power, try not to exceed a 1200W 80+ PSU. If you are in a newer house you might be able to get away with it, however, many older houses can't take that much amperage on a single line unless you are plugging it into an outlet that was meant for a refrigerator or some other high-amp utility. I've seen people fry the wires in their wall because they think they can just put a higher amp breaker in the box, forgetting that the wire itself can't take that much power-draw...Just another food for thought.

Great information sir.
Also, I think when a person exceeds 1000watts for a PSU, they should run a dedicated circuit for their PC, I mean it just makes sense. And better yet, run it on 220v instead of 120v, then it will be more efficient.
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