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post #5721 of 15199
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Yah its expensive but the blocks are precision made. High quality pieces. At least the good ones. Sucks to buy a new gpu block with every gpu, but if you sell the old one with the old card that will always help.
Come on lets be serious right now, do you really think its hard for ek for example to make a block? I mean i can see the price being high due to materials, but the charge for precision if ridiculous. Its a one time process, the block is made over and over again with the same diagram on a cnc mill, making the same presice cut over and over again.
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post #5722 of 15199
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Come on lets be serious right now, do you really think its hard for ek for example to make a block? I mean i can see the price being high due to materials, but the charge for precision if ridiculous. Its a one time process, the block is made over and over again with the same diagram on a cnc mill, making the same presice cut over and over again.
Do you have any idea how much a CNC machine costs? Because they are very expensive. Not to mention someone to design the block and verify.

nice watch here:

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post #5723 of 15199
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Do you have any idea how much a CNC machine costs? Because they are very expensive. Not to mention someone to design the block and verify.

nice watch here:
^This, when you own a machine that costs ~$100k you get to charge a premium for stuff made on it. Thats just how it works.

Would I like to pay $20 for a block, sure. But I appreciate the work that goes into it. Now $500 for a gtx 580, thats too much.

Cool vid btw.
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Do you have any idea how much a CNC machine costs? Because they are very expensive. Not to mention someone to design the block and verify.

nice watch here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Yd8v2Ub9E
The amount of money it costs to purchase a cnc mill is rapidly paid back after they rip us of for a $100 a block each...
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post #5725 of 15199
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The amount of money it costs to purchase a cnc mill is rapidly paid back after they rip us of for a $100 a block each...
Sure, but again the point is they have one and you don't. So they can charge a premium. Its the way of the world dude. Same reason a Doctor, lawyer, etc. can charge so much.
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post #5726 of 15199
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The amount of money it costs to purchase a cnc mill is rapidly paid back after they rip us of for a $100 a block each...
Not really. A block of copper itself can cost $40+. Then add other parts, and sunk costs and they don't make a hell of a lot. After they pay off machine costs (investment) they can make a decent profit.

It's not that easy man. I have family in the tool-n-die industry, I know.
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The amount of money it costs to purchase a cnc mill is rapidly paid back after they rip us of for a $100 a block each...
You also need to figure in material cost, labor costs for the operator/programmer of the machines. It takes a lot of hours(figure well over 800 hours) to get a person to run one of these machines effectively. Then the cost of the machine themselves, I would bet if they bought those brand new, the paid well over $250K a piece. I work in a shop that has 3 CNC machining lathes, that are all over 10 years old. 2 Mazak's, and 1 Mori Seiki. The Mori is a 1982 model, a still cost over $100k, not including the parts that had to be purchased to make it run-able again. The 2 Mazak's, were right around $200K, also not including replacement parts. It's not a cheap business to get into at all.
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post #5728 of 15199
I do a lot of work in machine shops to build our race car and yes CNC machines certainly do cost a lot. The new ones are easily $200-300k. However, I don't think material costs are that high, it's the labor and maintenance costs that are high. They can break even and start making decent profits after selling a few thousand blocks, I'm not sure how big of an industry WC blocks are though... so no idea how long it takes to sell that many. But like others have said, with such high overhead and the fact that they have a CNC mill and you don't, gives them the power to charge people that much. Most people can't justify the cost, that's why very few people actually invest into WC blocks for their GPUs.. gotta pay to play.
    
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think of it this way, you get what you pay for, its good quality stuff.
   
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post #5730 of 15199
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think of it this way, you get what you pay for, its good quality stuff.
This exactly. You can waste a lot if money trying to save a little. These parts arent cheap because they generally are not garbage and worth the investment.
 
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