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Dropping in to say what's up! I'm building my first ever rig and this thread pointed me in the direction of the NZXT Phantom. thumb.gif
My white Phantom along with a few extra panels is now currently on it's way from NZXT to my home and I had some basic questions while I go through this awesome thread page by page and do some more additional research.
1. (yes another H100 question). Does anyone here have an H100 installed in their Phantom without the top 200mm NZXT fans? If so do you have pics? I'd prefer if possible to not have the rad/fan that low and covering up the mobo on the top.
2. Is the front bay door detachable so that it will be easier to mod/paint?
3. I wanted to go with a white/black/red theme with the case and was wondering what mobo would you recommend for the 2600k/2700k that has that color scheme? I am leaning towards the P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 but the only downside I found so far was the blue components. (yes stupid esthetics question I know unless there is a mobo cover that I am not aware of). Must be PCI 3 and gen3 compatible... Either that or stick with the P8Z68 and go with a white/black/blue color scheme.

Yes the door is removable, you can rip the case apart into pieces, top comes off, door, front, just be careful and ask around how to go about doing it, or figure out yourself and be gentle with the beauty smile.gif

Dunno why you didn't google the pic tongue.gif - http://goo.gl/2kfKU (Phantoms with H100)

Here are 2 black/red themes 1155 Z68 boards with PCI-E 3.0 slots:

ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 - http://goo.gl/Z7Sqb
ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3 - http://goo.gl/ZFDSh

If you're gonna go for black and red, I suggest Dominator GT RAM

H60 would work fine really, I don't like the idea of a 240mm H100 rad on a 2 x 200mm fan setup, looks ugly and bulky

Some red cable sleeves as well of course wink.gif
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Ahem....bump rolleyes.gif

Hmm it really bothers me that you would suggest this to me or anyone on this forum? Why would you tell me to do this? To fry my chip i barely could afford? Good thing i just looked into this before doing so.

This is what i just found somewhere on this site on accident luckily

(if you applied some really heavy load with AVX instructions, you may fry the CPU.)

That was speaking of only running 5ghz at 1.45 volts so i think Prime95 and intel burntest even on normal is more then enough to know if your Pc is stable.A pc working under normal gaming or whatever will never hit that load anyway.Way i see it you pass prime95 on blend 12 hours you are stable Period! So dont go frying your chip pushing it to some extreme measure that's not necessary at all.
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post #8063 of 15204
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Ahem....bump rolleyes.gif

Hmm it really bothers me that you would suggest this to me or anyone on this forum? Why would you tell me to do this? To fry my chip i barely could afford? Good thing i just looked into this before doing so.

This is what i just found somewhere on this site on accident luckily

(if you applied some really heavy load with AVX instructions, you may fry the CPU.)

That was speaking of only running 5ghz at 1.45 volts so i think Prime95 and intel burntest even on normal is more then enough to know if your Pc is stable.A pc working under normal gaming or whatever will never hit that load anyway.Way i see it you pass prime95 on blend 12 hours you are stable Period! So dont go frying your chip pushing it to some extreme measure that's not necessary at all.

Well if you are using intel burn test without AVX on sandy bridge then you are doing it wrong. Thats just how it is. I also prefer prime with sandy. But plenty of people have ran it for 12 hours just to BSOD doing something else.
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It should be made very clear then to people that running it over 1.45 volts which is nothing when going for high overclocks could kill your chip.I would really love to see some screenshots of someone running this at 5ghz on an i5-2500k with under 1.45 volts sure there might be like an extremly low level of them that may achieve this but i think the whole concept of stability has gone way off track sorry but i feel the same if you pass prime for 12 hours and can pass intel burntest on even just high you should be more then stable for 24/7 use.To push your Cpu to the point of burning it up is not a test for stability its a test of stupidity sorry.There is no reason to stress a Cpu to that extreme unless you plan on doing something that is going to ever stress it that close.And i am talking about a 2700k they are saying will die with that test at 1.45 volts.Which runs lower voltage then the i5 in the first place. So whats max for an i5 then 1.3 volts?Sorry but i don't believe this at all.

and as far as i knew or thought intel burntest has AVX anyway so how is that doing it wrong?
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Is this what you mean by AVX i am kinda confused by the whole question of running intel burntest and AVX. or is it something totally different?

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post #8066 of 15204
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Hmm it really bothers me that you would suggest this to me or anyone on this forum? Why would you tell me to do this? To fry my chip i barely could afford? Good thing i just looked into this before doing so.
This is what i just found somewhere on this site on accident luckily
(if you applied some really heavy load with AVX instructions, you may fry the CPU.)
That was speaking of only running 5ghz at 1.45 volts so i think Prime95 and intel burntest even on normal is more then enough to know if your Pc is stable.A pc working under normal gaming or whatever will never hit that load anyway.Way i see it you pass prime95 on blend 12 hours you are stable Period! So dont go frying your chip pushing it to some extreme measure that's not necessary at all.

Take a breath guy and sit back down.

First rule of OC'ing. If you're willing to OC it than be willing to say good bye to it when you screw up. There are no guarantees about anything when you OC let alone that you wont fry it by forcing it to take more voltage than the factory spec. So don't even think of taking that tone with me.

What I asked you to do I have done to my chip literally at least 100 or more times. I run my 2500k at 5.0ghz 24/7 no down clocking with out it degrading for close to a year now.

It is common knowledge on this forum that to actually stress test a SandyBridge chip you must run a harder instruction set.
Here: AVX Linpack There should be no more mystery about what we are talking about now.

The way you see it is wrong. You might as well take your 12 hours of Prime95 and throw it out the window. It's a waste of time. Besides you want to talk about hurting your chip go ahead and run your intense number calculator for 12 hours. That 12 hours is equal to months of actual usage. Go ahead and cut that off the total life span of your chip. I know it was normal practice to run Prime for 8-12 on older chips, but that's just not the way to do it anymore.

Now let's talk about why IBT w/AVX is a great real world test. Think of it this way IBT is the max possible temps you should ever be able to hit (your rig can't really do more work than this). I get within 10C of those numbers while playing BF3 (at least I used to). Knowing that my rig is still stable for another 10C after that means that I don't have to worry about my PC crashing while I'm in the middle of a game.

Remember your CPU while never take more vCore than what you set it to. If you set it to something stupid then run something hard enough to cause it to draw all that power and it cooks who's to blame? You or the program that was running?

Do not attack me about something that you don't know anything about. Then post something you typed as "proof" (and you've done that before). If you're trying to quote something you read maybe you should actually link it?
And for Christ sake could you please learn some sentence and writing structure? You post up these giant rants that are impossible to read because they are composed of nothing more than run on after run on. You really expect anyone to take you seriously when you post like that?

I was only trying to understand what was going on with your system. I didn't know if you had your cooling working really well, or more likely that you weren't stressing the chip correctly. I was trying to be friendly.

And aside from that I didn't even realise that you're running a 2700K. I actually don't care at all anymore. Have a nice night. thumb.gif
 
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You guys are dumb. Overclocking is pretty safe nowadays, depending on your motherboard. If I overclock to something that my pc cant handle it'll shutdown, and reboot telling me my OC failed. Also, NOBODY NEEDS 5GHZ. I purchased the i7 2600K a week after it came out, and was SUPER excited about building my first build, and I was going to run it at 5GHZ and everything, and I did. Ill tell you right now, 3.5-4ghz, is more then enough for today's applications. The only thing that might possibly need OC'ing is our GPU's. So stop *****ING, and run at 3.5-4ghz on intel turbo tech. Keeps your processor cool, and no need to worry about stability.

hope this helped.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ReconRunner View Post

You guys are dumb. Overclocking is pretty safe nowadays, depending on your motherboard. If I overclock to something that my pc cant handle it'll shutdown, and reboot telling me my OC failed. Also, NOBODY NEEDS 5GHZ. I purchased the i7 2600K a week after it came out, and was SUPER excited about building my first build, and I was going to run it at 5GHZ and everything, and I did. Ill tell you right now, 3.5-4ghz, is more then enough for today's applications. The only thing that might possibly need OC'ing is our GPU's. So stop *****ING, and run at 3.5-4ghz on intel turbo tech. Keeps your processor cool, and no need to worry about stability.
hope this helped.

You jump in and try to point out how other people are dumb, but you should just keep your mouth shut till you've learned something worth posting.
 
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Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB LG Blu Ray/HD DVD Enzotech SCW-REV.A Swiftech MCR320-QP-K x2 
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Windows7 Proffesional 64bit Acer 23" LCD Logitech G15 Corsair GS600 
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NZXT Phantom White Custom Mods Logitech G5 
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2500K ASUS P8P67 EVO Calibre GTX 480 Corsair Vengence 
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Vertex 2 LG DVD What ever is being tested Windows 7 professional 64bit 
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Acer 23" Generic High Power Astro PT 700w Antec 900/TBD 
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Yes the door is removable, you can rip the case apart into pieces, top comes off, door, front, just be careful and ask around how to go about doing it, or figure out yourself and be gentle with the beauty smile.gif
Dunno why you didn't google the pic tongue.gif - http://goo.gl/2kfKU (Phantoms with H100)
Here are 2 black/red themes 1155 Z68 boards with PCI-E 3.0 slots:
ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 - http://goo.gl/Z7Sqb
ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3 - http://goo.gl/ZFDSh
If you're gonna go for black and red, I suggest Dominator GT RAM
H60 would work fine really, I don't like the idea of a 240mm H100 rad on a 2 x 200mm fan setup, looks ugly and bulky
Some red cable sleeves as well of course wink.gif

Thanks for the info. Man this thread has a lot of pages. LOL

I could have sworn I googled it before, maybe i just got lost in this thread. redface.gif
(EDIT; I guess I did because I can't still find the pic with the H100 mounted without the 200mm fan on the Phantom. I was primarily interested to see how it would mount and if the case would get enough airflow without the 200m fan)

For the mobo, the ASUS Maximus IV is a microATX board I ruled it out. That ASRock pro gen3 looks to be nice although I'm a little hesitant to step outside off the Asus box right now. I'll read up the reviews and decide if i go with a blue or red accent interior (with appropriate nzxt extension cables of course) wink.gif
Edited by FourDoor - 1/20/12 at 10:44pm
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Hello can anyone tell me the CFM for the stock fans? particularly the top fan? I don't think it's the same as the non LED fan they sell.
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