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Hey guys.

Im not very knowledgable when it comes to AMD processors and im just wondering if i should get a 3700 or a 3200. I know it seems like s stupid question!

But ive read up that OC'ing a 3200 you can reach speeds of 2.6 - 2.8 from a stock of 2.2

But its the same with the 3700, ive read that people have OC'ed to 2.8, so is it worth folking out the extra cash for a 3700 becasue the only advantage i can see is the 1mb cache.

What dot he 3700 and 3200 mean anyway? and are they the same stock speed?

Thanks
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3700s are good overclockers... and so are 3200s.
basically it all depends on what you plan on doing with it... what type of apps and such? also, any games? name specifics please

what's your goal overclock?
alot of people say the 3200 means it performs about as well as a pentium 4 3.2ghz...
of course, this is false. a pentium 4 3.2ghz will perform better in encoding + multithreaded applications because of hyperthreading... but the 3200+ will SCHOOL it in most games... not including quake 4 and other multithreaded games of the like.
the 3700 would be about the same in relation to a P4 3.6 or 3.8ghz, better in some ways, worse in others.
overall, its different mostly because the chip is better, and it doesn't support hyperthreading.
this explains why Pentium D's didn't outperform Athlon 64 X2's... of course, they're priced rightfully anyways.
basically 2x athlon 64 > 2x pentium 4, and athlon 64 > pentium 4
of course, hyperthreading makes things a little different.. so the pentium 4 outperforms in multithreaded tasks.

another thing that effect performance in different areas would be cache size..
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post #3 of 37
The 3700 is clocked 200mhx faster at stock. This also means the multiplier is one step up, which means you have more flexibility in overclocking. The big difference between the two though is the L2 Cache. the 3200 has 512 kb while the 3700 has 1 mb. With cache, its simple, more is better. If you can afford the extra 80 bucks or so, get the 3700.
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post #4 of 37
3700+s tend to be much better overclockers. Several members have hit 3 GHz on air with them.
And a 3200+ is 2Ghz at stock, not 2.2Ghz.
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3700+s tend to be much better overclockers. Several members have hit 3 GHz on air with them.
And a 3200+ is 2Ghz at stock, not 2.2Ghz.
yes, but its all the luck of the draw lol... steppings + the individual chip + how well you cool the thing
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Not so much. Pretty much all the San Diegos overclock well. dangerousHobo got his KACAE stepping 3700+ to 3GHz on the stock cooler.
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Not so much. Pretty much all the San Diegos overclock well. dangerousHobo got his KACAE stepping 3700+ to 3GHz on the stock cooler.
note: the san diego is extremely similar to the venice core... with double the cache.
if he cooled it better, he could get higher voltage, and higher clocks (this is a known fact)... not to mention cooler temps.
either way, both chips will perform very well.
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Thanks guys, plused your reps for helping me.

Im only really using it for CSS. And general apps as im not a real big gamer, except for that game. But there might be games in the future which i would like to play. But also im purchasing an Asrock Dual Sata because i want to keep a fairly low budget (although im prepared to go extra on a CPU)

The price for the 3700 is only £150 compared to £100 for a 3200

Like i said it will be on a budgeted board, which most probably means a limited OC and i wouldn't really use it on much except for CSS

Also i don't really have a goal OC, maybe won't even OC if it runs smoothly on CSS. But a little extra power never hurt anyone.

If anyone can advice a better mobo i owuld greatly appreciate it, its just i only bought my £80 6600gt agp the other day and i dont really want to buy a mobo that has only a PCI-E as that would make my 6600gt worthless
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post #9 of 37
save your money if you're only playing CSS the system requirements + suggested specs are way lower than a 3200+...
plus u can o/c it a lot regardless.
overclock to save money!
ASUS and ABIT are nice motherboard brands... ive had success with ECS as of late...
any motherboard will suit you for mild overclocking... and general use basically.
get something with all the features that you'd like in a motherboard...
for instance mine has SLI, dual lan port for my network, and 10usb, and 2 firewire.
it also came with a 3.5" extension for the firewire and some usb ports... if i wanted to use it
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Budget and performance, 3200+ and put the extra money towards 2x1G of RAM for the gaming aspect
    
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