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post #21 of 37
That is a very good deal...get one of those.
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post #22 of 37
If someone hasnt already mentioned it, The Sandy has a way better memory controller, which also lets it get higher OC's than the Venice.
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post #23 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by fade2green514
alot of people say the 3200 means it performs about as well as a pentium 4 3.2ghz...
of course, this is false. a pentium 4 3.2ghz will perform better in encoding + multithreaded applications because of hyperthreading...
...
of course, hyperthreading makes things a little different.. so the pentium 4 outperforms in multithreaded tasks.
To my knowledge...

Intel made HyperThreading after AMD made HyperTransport. To my knowledge, these 2 principles work in the same manner, and should therefore turn out similar results between processors, as the Venice 3200 has HyperTransport. It just turns out that games manufacturers don't push the fact that Intel HT optimisers in their games should be able to work with AMD CPU's. Unfortunatly, I have no games that use HT, so I can't vouch for that.
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The 3200 comes with a stock speed of 2.0GHz, but they OC pretty much the same, depending on the stepping(core type).
According to some benchmarks i recently reviewed, the additional cache is not much of advantage for gaming, and that the results of a 3700 SD and a 3200 Venice@2.2GHz are quite similar.

I believe that SD core has better cache latency also, not sure tho because i own an Opteron which should be superior.
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post #25 of 37
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Originally Posted by Hellgy
The 3200 comes with a stock speed of 2.0GHz, but they OC pretty much the same, depending on the stepping(core type).
According to some benchmarks i recently reviewed, the additional cache is not much of advantage for gaming, and that the results of a 3700 SD and a 3200 Venice@2.2GHz are quite similar.

I believe that SD core has better cache latency also, not sure tho because i own an Opteron which should be superior.
A 3700+ at stock speeds beats a 3200+ at 2.2GHz, because of the Sandy's extra 512kb of L2 cache. This equates to approximently 200MHz extra speed, so a 3200+ would need to be at about 2.4 to match the 3700+. However, a 3200+ would have to get to about 3 Ghz to match the 2.8GHz that is very possible with the 3700+. And the recent San Diego chips have been overclocking much better than Venice ones.
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Recent SD's have been getting 3.0ghz on air cooling.
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post #27 of 37
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Originally Posted by Namrac
Okay, let me put it this way: If you can afford it, get the 3700+. With that board, you should be able to get 2.8 out it (it's gonna want more voltage past that). That's as fast as an FX57, AMD's fastest single core CPU.
I could get 2860 stable for an hour on prime, farther than that and I need more volts than the stock BIOS will give me, but there is an overclocker BIOS that I'm going to install and hopefully I can get stable at 2900.
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post #28 of 37
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Originally Posted by wst50
To my knowledge, these 2 principles work in the same manner
HyperThreading = 2 Virtual CPUs

HyperTransport = a bus

TOTALLY different.
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post #29 of 37
Yeah, HyperTransport is like intel's Front Side Bus.
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Hey 996tt you have the same board that im going to get. Is it a decent overclocker? ive never OC's before, and don't know how to change a bios, is it easy with that board? thanks
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