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What are you going to use it for?

To be honest, you are going to get very little improvement in speeds between the 980x overclocked and 990x. Especially if you are only going to use 6 threads and not 12.
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1. You probably want to stick with the SSD's on the HW RAID card or as blameless said go for a PCI-E SSD. That might be your best option.

2. Another 4x120 RAD wouldn't do too much if you have just the 980x/990x and the mobo in the loop

3. You're probably going to want to watercool the chipset if you want to reach 4.8+ghz stable for 24/7 use

4. A hardware NIC would probably be a complete waste. Unless you're gaming, it shouldn't really make any difference performance wise.

Also I highly doubt that any Hardware RAID card that supports TRIM will be released within the next 2 years, so you might want to give up on that.
    
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That build looks amazing, don't get me wrong, but I don't understand why you chose the UD9. It doesn't look like you'll be using 1/4 of its features so its just wasted money on something you'll never use.

Despite one of my other threads, I would actually wait for Sandy Bridge. It's coming out in a couple of months, and I doubt the 990X is even going to be released. The $350 chip faired better than the 980X in benchmarks, so it's going to be a dream. You can spend the rest of that money on graphics cards or something to keep you distracted while you "work".
The reason I was thinking about the UD9 was simply because it's been proven as a very succesful overclocking board. If the UD3/5/7 are truly just the same but with less features that I don't need then I would agree that I can "downgrade" and save some cash. I made a huge mistake getting the asus p6t boards because of the throttling problems, so after that I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't have any problems.

I had thought about waiting for sandy bridge. However the preliminary benchmarks I've seen on the web and intel's own marketing data show the 980x/990x still at the top of the cpu pile for a while (9 months to a year). Please correct me if I'm wrong on this.

I'm an IC designer, so the quicker a simulation finishes the more likely we are to find bugs before we spend $100K on manufacturing a chip.

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post #14 of 37
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i have an 990x ES and soo far runs alot cooler than 980x and stock clock is 3.46
That's good to know - my 980x (albeit on air with a megahalems) is seriously temperature limited)

I like the look of the raven 2 case - I prefer vertical airflow to the horizontal of the danger den, I just liked the possibility of 2x480 rads in the 21 double wide. But if that's overkill, maybe I'll save some money there too.
     
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don't get the UD9, the performance isn't worth the cost unless you're going to do subzero benching. For your purposes (water or air?), an Rampage III Extreme or Rampage III Formula would give you pretty much the same OC for a lot less.
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What are you going to use it for?

To be honest, you are going to get very little improvement in speeds between the 980x overclocked and 990x. Especially if you are only going to use 6 threads and not 12.
Agreed - I'm not upgrading from the 980x though, this is a new build, I'm pushing the air cooled 980x off to a new guy joining us.
     
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Agreed - I'm not upgrading from the 980x though, this is a new build, I'm pushing the air cooled 980x off to a new guy joining us.
Can I work for you??? lol
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What I would probably do for the HDD setup:

- One ~60-100GB SSD for the OS (or OS and development files) attached right to the ICH10R

- One fast PCI-E SSD in the ~120GB range for development and swap space, or just swap.

- Four, fast, 7200 RPM drives (or velociraptors if you the random access performance is worth the cost), attached to the other ICH10R ports in RAID 10, for your "slow files".

Another option would be two PCI-E SSDs, one for swap and the other for development/OS and six drives in RAID 10 on the ICH10R.

RAID 0, 1, and 10 don't need any parity calculations, so overhead is very minimal and the ICH10R RAID should not be much slower than a HW card, unless you really need more than six drives. The ICH10R is good for upwards of 400-450MB/s.

Also, I would personally be wary of relying on 24GiB of non-ECC memory on a serious job with such a huge amount of data being worked on for an extended period of time. ECC memory is much slower, but shouldn't reduce overall system performance by too much and it might be worth the extra reliability. Problem is that ECC memory would require a Xeon (there are X980 equivalents) and a board with the BIOS settings to enable ECC.

If you do go with standard non-ECC make sure you stress test the crap out of it for a good long time and verify it's error free before you do anything with it that can't tolerate errors/corruption.
Thanks for the suggestions

I had shied away from the PCI-E ssds due to the lack of trim. If I'm getting seperate ssds for OS/swap/development etc. wouldn't I get better performance from a 4xSSD in Raid 10? the 128GB C300s are pretty affordable.

I guess next time I do maintenance on the other machines I'll rip out the HW raid cards that I have in them (9211 and 9260) and save them for the server.

The ECC does seem interesting, I do get random tool crashes every so often, but to be honest I'm not convinced that it's not the tools being buggy. The question is whether it's worth the speed loss. I don't see anything faster than 1333, which is pretty slow compared to the 2000 I'm running now, plus the ECC is supposed to be another 2-3% overhead? I'll run some benchmarks on my tools varying the memory speed and see how much it really affects things.
     
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don't get the UD9, the performance isn't worth the cost unless you're going to do subzero benching. For your purposes (water or air?), an Rampage III Extreme or Rampage III Formula would give you pretty much the same OC for a lot less.
Yeah I'll be using water on this one. I'd thought about the R3E too, but after the throttling bug on the the p6td I was thinking to stay away from Asus.
     
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Can I work for you??? lol
Haha yeah I don't mind being able to build these for my own use without having to pay for it
     
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