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Before I post everything, understand, I'm only like 1/2 a level above a noob at ALL THIS. I understand a lot of it, but not a lot of the specifics.

GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 XL ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128442

OCZ Agility 2 60GB SATA II SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227542

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231358


HP 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827140046

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006

(2) Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 64MB SATA II 3.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136514

GPU??????????


Areca ARC-1210 RAID Controller

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816131003


(2) SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 320GB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152244 ((RAID 0 200GB Stripe ea.))

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103849 ( OC'd to <4GHz)

After thinking about it, now there isn't a need for a separate RAID Card

Blackmagic Intensity


$1707, before everything, including a GPU.

(3) ASUS 24" 1080P Widescreen LCD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236052

$600 Before all.

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Now a few more notes, I don't have a price range, I would like to keep it under $2K, or much cheaper. I will be building this over a 6 month period, with the help of a friend of mine, due to the fact I am a TOTAL noob at actually building systems. And honestly I don't think I will buy things at all together, probably the obvious ones first, MOBO, CPU(s), GPU.

If you'd like you can critique what I have, or you can tell me what I truly need. I use Sony Vegas 10 mostly, but others 10% of the time.

I am also looking for 3 monitors, all will be used for computing, but I also will be using one for competitive console gaming, if you can find something that is all under $500 and HD Widescreen, preferably LED, post it too.

I'm in no rush, honestly I am looking long term, so maybe I should wait for other components to come out while I am waiting....

THANKS.

EDIT - The reason I have (2) 2 TB HDDs, 1 SSD, and (2) 320 GB HDDs, is this.

I am putting the 2 (2) TB HDDs in normal config, call me weird, and the (2) 320 GB HDDs in RAID 0 for recording, and then putting the files recorded on the 4TB of space. The SSD is for Programs and OS.
Edited by Caz - 12/2/10 at 2:00pm
    
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The Blackmagic Intensity is the bigggest piece of trash I have ever used. It would always stop working or the screen would start to flicker, then finally it burnt out. This was on 3 different ones I have had. 2 of them were the PCI Express and the other was the Shuttle. I called up their tech support and that was worse, he told me that it wasn't broken, my computer was, he was also very rude and it took me yelling at him to let me talk. So i wouldn't recomend anything Black Magic. The rest looks fine though.
Edited by Sean Webster - 12/1/10 at 2:39pm
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post #3 of 33
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The Blackmagic Intensity is the bigggest piece of trash I have ever used. It would always stop working or the screen would start to flicker, then finally it burnt out. This was on 3 different ones I have had. 2 of them were the PCI Express and the other was the Shuttle. I called up their tech support and that was worse, he told me that it wasn't broken, my computer was, he was also very rude and it took me yelling at him to let me talk. So i wouldn't recomend anything Black Magic. The rest looks fine though.
Well honestly, he was probably right. But, it wasn't broken, you need a MEAN RAID setup to even capture in Compressed HD. Well, you don't need a mean setup for Compressed, but it needs to be able to write in 100MB/s. Fully Uncompressed 720p/60fps is like 300+MB/s.

I've done a lot of research, TRUST ME. Some say you need a lot less, but this is from people who all used BMI with AMAZING results.
    
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Shaping up to be a very nice build there!

If CS5 is a major component of your work-flow then I would consider going with an Nvidia card as I believe that Adobe's Mercury Playback Engine only supports hardware acceleration with Cuda enabled cards.
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You are EXTREMELY SEVERELY overpaying for generic RAM. Change it out right away. You'll want higher speeds (though ~1600Mhz is fine) with lower timings with video editing; the extra bandwidth/lower latency from better RAM will help with encoding times.
EDIT: I realize this is a server build and server RAM, but is this really necessary? I use my build for HD video encoding, and it works perfectly with 8GB of RAM and overclocked desktop parts. Sony Vegas Pro utilises all 8GB in a perfect manner, I can imagine other apps will do the same. The overclocked 6-core performance is extraordinarily. The upgrade path to Bulldozer is a via-motherboard however it is indeed there. Desktop parts can be had for half the price (i.e. 1x4GB of memory can be had for close to half the price right now). Of course you don't get dual-CPU power in case that's what you need.
Edited by xd_1771 - 12/1/10 at 4:46pm
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Shaping up to be a very nice build there!

If CS5 is a major component of your work-flow then I would consider going with an Nvidia card as I believe that Adobe's Mercury Playback Engine only supports hardware acceleration with Cuda enabled cards.
I was thinking of using a Cuda card, but honestly I don't need Cuda as I will have a CRAP load of power.
    
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You are EXTREMELY SEVERELY overpaying for generic RAM. Change it out right away. You'll want higher speeds (though ~1600Mhz is fine) with lower timings with video editing; the extra bandwidth/lower latency from better RAM will help with encoding times.
EDIT: I realize this is a server build and server RAM, but is this really necessary? I use my build for HD video encoding, and it works perfectly with 8GB of RAM and overclocked desktop parts. Sony Vegas Pro utilises all 8GB in a perfect manner, I can imagine other apps will do the same. The overclocked 6-core performance is extraordinarily. The upgrade path to Bulldozer is a via-motherboard however it is indeed there. Desktop parts can be had for half the price (i.e. 1x4GB of memory can be had for close to half the price right now). Of course you don't get dual-CPU power in case that's what you need.
Well first I will look for higher speeds on the RAM, but I need computing power, like a 5 minute HD file right now takes like 45 minutes or something way crazy. I do a lot of editing, and need some lower times. And it sucks to preview on my computer, all of which, I think would be better with 16 cores rather than 4, lol.

EDIT-

This sounds good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161337
Edited by Caz - 12/1/10 at 5:46pm
    
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In certain circumstances, you'll get a greater benefit from Cuda than from extra cores.

In fact, I believe that you will get far greater value overall by going with 6 cores @ 4GHz with Cuda rather than 16 cores @ 2GHz without.

It's harder to find benchmarks for this sort of thing, however you can see the difference that Cuda can make to render times in Premiere CS5:

1 min 36s - 2 Cores with Cuda
3 min 45s - 6 Cores without

link here
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In certain circumstances, you'll get a greater benefit from Cuda than from extra cores.

In fact, I believe that you will get far greater value overall by going with 6 cores @ 4GHz with Cuda rather than 16 cores @ 2GHz without.

It's harder to find benchmarks for this sort of thing, however you can see the difference that Cuda can make to render times in Premiere CS5:

1 min 36s - 2 Cores with Cuda
3 min 45s - 6 Cores without

link here
I don't use Adobe Premiere though.
    
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In certain circumstances, you'll get a greater benefit from Cuda than from extra cores.

In fact, I believe that you will get far greater value overall by going with 6 cores @ 4GHz with Cuda rather than 16 cores @ 2GHz without.

It's harder to find benchmarks for this sort of thing, however you can see the difference that Cuda can make to render times in Premiere CS5:

1 min 36s - 2 Cores with Cuda
3 min 45s - 6 Cores without

link here
I don't use Adobe Premiere though.

Edit- don't know why I double posted. Sorry.
    
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