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Originally Posted by jackofhearts495 View Post

The EX radiator's aren't meant for low RPM fans. They have a very high fin count (due to split fins), so they perform far better with high-RPM fans.

If you want to use slower fans, get an RS or RX.

This is taken right from FrozenCPU's web page for an EX series radiator:

"Introducing a new generation of performance PC radiators. The EX series combines the low profile design of our RS series radiators with the high performance of our award winning RX series. This feat has been possible due to several manufacturing advances including, split fins, improved soldering techniques, and welded seam tubes. The EX series has been designed and optimized for low speed fans, so it can offer high performance cooling at very low noise levels. "

Here is the page I took it from in case you don't believe me:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14328/ex-rad-316/XSPC_EX360_Triple_120mm_Low_Profile_Split_Fin_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s161

It says very plainly that it is optimized for LOW speed fans biggrin.gif
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Sounds about as believable as this what Hardware Labs says about their 30 FPI GT Stealth radiators : Achieves Black Ice® Xtreme level performance in stealth mode (low-noise/low-airflow conditions).
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I know a few people that are using the EX rads already and they are getting good results either as good as the RX rads they replaced or in one situation better temps then the RX rads he replaced, and in all instances they are using Gentle Typhoon AP-15's on fan controllers and keep the fans around 700 to 1000 rpm. So the EX rads peak my interest I know that, and I'll probably replace my RS rad with an EX cause I like the low profile rads.
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This is taken right from FrozenCPU's web page for an EX series radiator:
"Introducing a new generation of performance PC radiators. The EX series combines the low profile design of our RS series radiators with the high performance of our award winning RX series. This feat has been possible due to several manufacturing advances including, split fins, improved soldering techniques, and welded seam tubes. The EX series has been designed and optimized for low speed fans, so it can offer high performance cooling at very low noise levels. "
Here is the page I took it from in case you don't believe me:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14328/ex-rad-316/XSPC_EX360_Triple_120mm_Low_Profile_Split_Fin_Radiator.html?tl=g30c95s161
It says very plainly that it is optimized for LOW speed fans biggrin.gif

I've been hearing a bunch of different ideas from everyone blinksmiley.gif

The descriptions of the EX, RS, and RX all claim they're "optimized for low-speed fans". The RS and RX are both sub-8 fpi, but I figured that technically the EX would have a much higher fpi because of the split-fin design.

Also, the EX radiators seem to do much better with high-RPM fans (source).

That's just what I gathered from around the interwebs.
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Originally Posted by jackofhearts495 View Post

I've been hearing a bunch of different ideas from everyone blinksmiley.gif
The descriptions of the EX, RS, and RX all claim they're "optimized for low-speed fans". The RS and RX are both sub-8 fpi, but I figured that technically the EX would have a much higher fpi because of the split-fin design.
Also, the EX radiators seem to do much better with high-RPM fans (source).
That's just what I gathered from around the interwebs.

1200RPM isn't what I would consider high-speed. wink.gif

Yeah, it takes more than the RX series, but it's not like it demands a 300RPM fan or anything. I did end up picking a EX120 up to go with the RX360 and it seems it will work out just fine from those tests. thumb.gif
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I think we are also forgetting that a good radiator fan will still have a decent static pressure even at lower rpms and still move a decent amount of air as well. For example the Gentle Typhoons, if you get the AP-15's they maybe 1800 rpm fans but they still have good pressure and air movement at say 700 rpms. So your fan choice is just as important as your radiator in many respects!
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Got my kit yesterday!! biggrin.gif Love it so far. I will update pics with before and after pics and temps... *cue music- I'M SO EXCITED...* Here is a link with pics of before and after http://www.overclock.net/t/584302/ocn-water-cooling-club-and-picture-gallery/16600_50#post_16227334

EDIT: Here are some temps with the previous cooling setup vs the RX360 kit

120 rad, D-Tek Fusion V-1 CPU Block, Mircro-res, MCP655 Pump(1200 LPH)
(Load)-4.6Ghz 1.336v
(Idle)-1.6Ghz 1.01v

Prime95 Small FFT
3 Hours
Same test/time for both sets.

Ambient Temp - 21*C
Idle - 27*24*29*28*
100% Load - 69*73*77*72*
0 Error 0 Warnings

Gaming FEAR2
52*53*58*52*
MW2
51*53*57*51*

With Rasa 750 RX360

Ambient Temp - 21*C
Idle - 24*22*27*26
100% Load - 54*59*63*59*

Gamine FEAR2
47*49*52*47*
MW2
46*47*50*44*

Differences
Idle = -3*-2*-2*-2*
100% Load = -15*-14*-14*-13*
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Got my kit yesterday!! biggrin.gif Love it so far. I will update pics with before and after pics and temps... *cue music- I'M SO EXCITED...*
EDIT: Here are some temps with the previous cooling setup vs the RX360 kit
120 rad, D-Tek Fusion V-1 CPU Block, Mircro-res, MCP655 Pump(1200 LPH)
(Load)-4.6Ghz 1.336v
(Idle)-1.6Ghz 1.01v
Prime95 Small FFT
3 Hours
Same test/time for both sets.
Ambient Temp - 21*C
Idle - 27*24*29*28*
100% Load - 69*73*77*72*
0 Error 0 Warnings
Gaming FEAR2
52*53*58*52*
MW2
51*53*57*51*
With Rasa 750 RX360
Ambient Temp - 21*C
Idle - 24*22*27*26
100% Load - 54*59*63*59*
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47*49*52*47*
MW2
46*47*50*44*
Differences
Idle = -3*-2*-2*-2*
100% Load = -15*-14*-14*-13*

It seems like this is when this kit really shines is at load. I was impressed... Of course, it does not take much for that....
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Just wanted to say I bit the bullet on WC because of this thread...

Did a RS 360 because I won't be swinging any multi GPUs any time in the visible future

My system's a little dated, waiting on Ivy Bridge before upgrading much, luckily this fit my old processor, and boy is it cooler than old school air. I don't have a lot of money to throw at cases, so I do a lot of home made stuff. Installation was pretty easy, just had to cut out space for the radiator, mounted the pump/res backwards, cause honestly the acrylic goes with my case ha... pretty quiet pump, fan controller on the way...

And please don't make fun of my christmas light leds running around the perimeter, still trying to think of something better to do with them, maybe under the motherboard?

Sorry for the crappy phone pic, I didn't put my media card reader back in because I barely use my real camera anymore.

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Edited by dubsides - 1/18/12 at 5:31pm
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Samsung Ecogreen F2 asus dvd rw xspc rs360 kit linux Mint Debian 
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Intel Conroe Core Duo E 6600 asus p5wdh deluxe gigabyte hd 4550 corsair xms2 
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considering everywhere is always sold out of the ap15s what are some other great 120x25mm fans... noise isnt an issue to an extent just want performance, and to get rid of the giant 38mm fans i have now so i can move my rad...
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