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I am about to watercool my set up with a custom loop. I currently use a H100 and it works fine, but I am going to move it to my second rig (my girls) and re do mine with custom parts. I am only doing my CPU as of right now because I love the GTX690 cover and hate to see it go, and my temps stay low on it as it is. So as of right now this is what is in my cart.



My biggest question is, how do you guys feel that the XSPC X2O DC-750 - Dual 5.25" Bay-Res Pump/Reservoir Combo - V4 performance? And what is the biggest difference or why would it be better to get a cylinder res with pump like I see most people have in thie watercooling thread. Example, "EK-DDC X-Res 140 CSQ."

I am still looking at fittings. I belive I am going to go with Monsoon but we will see. I will be using Mayhem pastel mint green as coolent.

This is all going into my silverstone TJ10-ESA. Thank you for any help or ideas that might point me in the right direction before I make any mistakes.
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Cylinder res - easier to bleed and if you want to run a length of tube to a fillport, same as if you wanna run a tube for a drain, it can be done from the res's threads, using fittings or barbs with the tubing. There's a bitspower mini-valve that is popular as a drain.

But the double bay res is so easy to install and not bad at all for bleeding when you're filling up the res, just leave a little extra tubing running to the bayres/pump so you can pull the bayres out an inch or so to get to the fillport.

Are you on a tight budget ? I see that the ppcs price is marked down from $70 to $50 - the 750 pump is older technology and nowhere near as good as can be had with a D5 pump. Its sorta like audio gear; you can buy a receiver and get the built in processor and amplifiers in one box, or you can go with separates - allows for more power and matching of components .... and the sound tends to be of a better quality, assuming the pieces are set up and positioned well, which usually .... I blather wink.gif

Hard to beat that price on the pump/res combo, but what are you looking at for a rad ? XSPC puts out some better kits with the total package.
A 360 rad can handle a CPU and a GPU, dependent on your use of the rig - overclocking of either from a little to a lot can change your needs.

What you can do is buy small and work your way up, if you were to put the GPU under water later. But a good kit would be the EX360 - that would allow you to expand your block cooling later. But you need to figure out the room in the case - that's an older case, but it looks to have a footprint that might handle a push/pull 35mm rad setup. Deep case with over 25" and 20.5" tall at 8" wide - your rigbuilder pic shows the bay tower is walled off, looks nice, but with the H100 that's a 120.2 rad - you'd have to tear that wall out to get a 360 rad in the case, or at the least the top part, so the EX240 kit would be a good one for the CPU only. There's 2 kits - 1 with the D5 pump, the other with the DCC Laing pump - the D5 has 5 speeds, but most people run it at the default setting of # 2, which is goodenuf unless you're building a restrictive build with multiple blocks, angled fittings ....

Is your H100 in push/pull ? I can't see if there's any top fans - The EX240 rad is 35mm tall - with 25mm fans, you'd need at least 60mm of space inside the case. That case's top is shallow, so any pull fans would be sitting on top of the case top. And its better to run push fans .. inside the case if you're only gonna run 1 set of fans, but then you knew that, pretty much like your H100 setup.

And once you get started, don't be surprised to find that you become addicted and start finding reasons to buy more w/c gear wink.gif
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I really want those cylindrical reservoir, any idea how much restriction would I be adding if I add one to the XSPC Raystorm 750 RS240 Kit?
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Cylinder res - easier to bleed and if you want to run a length of tube to a fillport, same as if you wanna run a tube for a drain, it can be done from the res's threads, using fittings or barbs with the tubing. There's a bitspower mini-valve that is popular as a drain.
But the double bay res is so easy to install and not bad at all for bleeding when you're filling up the res, just leave a little extra tubing running to the bayres/pump so you can pull the bayres out an inch or so to get to the fillport.
Are you on a tight budget ? I see that the ppcs price is marked down from $70 to $50 - the 750 pump is older technology and nowhere near as good as can be had with a D5 pump. Its sorta like audio gear; you can buy a receiver and get the built in processor and amplifiers in one box, or you can go with separates - allows for more power and matching of components .... and the sound tends to be of a better quality, assuming the pieces are set up and positioned well, which usually .... I blather wink.gif
Hard to beat that price on the pump/res combo, but what are you looking at for a rad ? XSPC puts out some better kits with the total package.
A 360 rad can handle a CPU and a GPU, dependent on your use of the rig - overclocking of either from a little to a lot can change your needs.
What you can do is buy small and work your way up, if you were to put the GPU under water later. But a good kit would be the EX360 - that would allow you to expand your block cooling later. But you need to figure out the room in the case - that's an older case, but it looks to have a footprint that might handle a push/pull 35mm rad setup. Deep case with over 25" and 20.5" tall at 8" wide - your rigbuilder pic shows the bay tower is walled off, looks nice, but with the H100 that's a 120.2 rad - you'd have to tear that wall out to get a 360 rad in the case, or at the least the top part, so the EX240 kit would be a good one for the CPU only. There's 2 kits - 1 with the D5 pump, the other with the DCC Laing pump - the D5 has 5 speeds, but most people run it at the default setting of # 2, which is goodenuf unless you're building a restrictive build with multiple blocks, angled fittings ....
Is your H100 in push/pull ? I can't see if there's any top fans - The EX240 rad is 35mm tall - with 25mm fans, you'd need at least 60mm of space inside the case. That case's top is shallow, so any pull fans would be sitting on top of the case top. And its better to run push fans .. inside the case if you're only gonna run 1 set of fans, but then you knew that, pretty much like your H100 setup.
And once you get started, don't be surprised to find that you become addicted and start finding reasons to buy more w/c gear wink.gif

Thank you for your quick and very descriptive response. I love your analogy on audio equipment. That is something I can relate to +rep.

So I need to update my pictures in my Sig Rig. I have Cut the top out of my TJ10-ESA and fitted it with a 3x120mm Koolance Fan Shroud. So as of right now I have my H100 in Push/Pull and plan to do the same with this new set up. I was looking at the ex360 to keep it close to the height of the H100, but I was also going to see if the rx360 will fit I have a feeling it will clear by just a little bit. This case was a beast when I first got it but these days it is a B***h to work on. Based on cable management and other little things.

Future plans with in next 3 months.
- Cutting down motherboard tray to just fit the MB then custom fit around it with an acrylic backing to give it more space for cables and allowing it to hide the cable better. Like the newer cases have.
- Adding the custom watercooling loop that we are going over. Currently just the CPU will be in loop.
- Removing my custom mesh bottom cover for hiding power supply and cables and replacing it with an acrylic one that is laser cut with my design, black with green backing.

So I am not on any budget, the prices are looking good on p-pcs.com though. Once you said that the 750 in older tech and less power or options for upgrade in the future I may stray from this option and look at a cylinder res. With XSPC cpu block and ex360 or rx360.
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What are some good compression fittings for the rs360 kit?
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I really want those cylindrical reservoir, any idea how much restriction would I be adding if I add one to the XSPC Raystorm 750 RS240 Kit?

Wish I could answer that, but I can't put a number on it, not sure anyone could without some lab type measurements, if you know what I mean.
From what I've been reading this year since I came to OCN, the res isn't a source of restriction - its the water blocks themselves, along with 90 degree fittings, and of course, how much tubing you run. I'd definitely advise you to reconsider the 750 RS240 and think about upgrading to at least the EX line - you get a modern, much more reliable and powerful pump - either the DCC or the D5 version of the EX240 kit.

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Thank you for your quick and very descriptive response. I love your analogy on audio equipment.  That is something I can relate to +rep.   Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
So I need to update my pictures in my Sig Rig. I have Cut the top out of my TJ10-ESA and fitted it with a 3x120mm Koolance Fan Shroud. So as of right now I have my H100 in Push/Pull and plan to do the same with this new set up. I was looking at the ex360 to keep it close to the height of the H100, but I was also going to see if the rx360 will fit I have a feeling it will clear by just a little bit. This case was a beast when I first got it but these days it is a B***h to work on. Based on cable management and other little things.
Future plans with in next 3 months.
- Cutting down motherboard tray to just fit the MB then custom fit around it with an acrylic backing to give it more space for cables and allowing it to hide the cable better. Like the newer cases have.
- Adding the custom watercooling loop that we are going over. Currently just the CPU will be in loop.
- Removing my custom mesh bottom cover for hiding power supply and cables and replacing it with an acrylic one that is laser cut with my design, black with green backing.
So I am not on any budget, the prices are looking good on p-pcs.com though. Once you said that the 750 in older tech and less power or options for upgrade in the future I may stray from this option and look at a cylinder res. With XSPC cpu block and ex360 or rx360.

Sounds great ! You're on the ball, then. That is an abnormally long case considering its age, and its just tall enough .... the RX360 actual height is 63.8mm, IIRC - spex say 63mm, and other peeps will tell you 58mm, but that's not counting the actual body of the beast. The only feature I wish it had, like an Alphacool rad, is multiple ports option - you might check out their EX120 multiport rad - there's a 240 & a 360, or their crossflow rads - the 2 ports are on each end - there's a 240 & a 360. And thanks for the rep wink.gif

http://www.xs-pc.com/products/radiators/ex-series-radiators/

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What are some good compression fittings for the rs360 kit?

You know that the RS kits are all End of Line - discontinued. You really otta bump up to the EX or RX line with the Raystorm block and the D5 or DCC pump - very much an upgrade from the RS line. As for fittings, looks like you have to bump up to an EX kit to get the included XSPC comp fittings - very nice, but not much selection - straight, no angle fittings, no adapters, but it'll be enough to get you thru a CPU only w/c build. Check out the XSPC fittings at an online shop - there's a reasonable, affordable choice. Later, if you get taken under by the w/c bug, you'll want to spend some money on the bigger names, pricier, but with a lot more fittings to pick from - Bitspower, Koolance, Monsoon, Enzotech, etc
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I got an exchange offer, a RS240 for a Magicool 360 with $30 cash, good deal?
And is there any way to check if the rad is corroded inside?
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I got an exchange offer, a RS240 for a Magicool 360 with $30 cash, good deal?
And is there any way to check if the rad is corroded inside?

You talking about a trade with used gear ? from what I can find on Magicool prices in the USA - ppcs - the Magicool Slim and Pro 360 models are $10 and $20 more than the RS240.

As for corrosion, check this link out

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/01/24/corrosion-explored/
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You talking about a trade with used gear ? from what I can find on Magicool prices in the USA - ppcs - the Magicool Slim and Pro 360 models are $10 and $20 more than the RS240.
As for corrosion, check this link out
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/01/24/corrosion-explored
Yeah trade with an used rad, apparently his is in a better condition than mine.
Thanks for the link though, I'll defiantly check the outside for corrosion.
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What are some good compression fittings for the rs360 kit?

 

http://dazmode.com/store/product/7_16_-_5_8_-_straight_compression_fitting_-_chrome_silver_/

 

Read the review I did under the description.

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