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You can get a universal waterblock, but honestly they don't perform as well as a full-cover block.
What makes you say this? Looking around the internet it seams that a universal (+ ram sinks) will do just as good as full-cover if not better.
post #9162 of 13773
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I see what your saying, but if you have to buy the extra fans for push/pull for the RS kit, wouldn't that negate the $40 savings? or does the RS kit come with enough fans to run P/P? At any point i may upgrade the fans anyway though.

The RX rads from the 120 to the 480 are thick because they have three 3 rows of inner tubes for better water flow. The RS rads only have one.
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post #9163 of 13773
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What makes you say this? Looking around the internet it seams that a universal (+ ram sinks) will do just as good as full-cover if not better.
VRM's overheating seems to be a problem in the latest generations of graphics cards. And if you are going to do Watercooling, I'm assuming you are going to be doing overclocking as well.

VRM's tend to heat up 5 degrees more than any other part on my GPU. If they aren't cooled, then what is the point of cooling the chipset? If you aren't going to overclock a lot, then a Universal block will do just fine. The re-usability factor would be great as well if money is a problem.

Plus, Full-blocks look way better too in my opinion.

Edit: I will agree that with the proper RAM sinks it could perform just as well as the full-cover block. However, airflow will have to be taken into consideration now for the RAM sinks to work effectively (especially if you are working in SLI/Xfire).
Edited by modinn - 8/3/11 at 11:20am
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VRM's overheating seems to be a problem in the latest generations of graphics cards. And if you are going to do Watercooling, I'm assuming you are going to be doing overclocking as well.

VRM's tend to heat up 5 degrees more than any other part on my GPU. If they aren't cooled, then what is the point of cooling the chipset? If you aren't going to overclock a lot, then a Universal block will do just fine. The re-usability factor would be great as well if money is a problem.

Plus, Full-blocks look way better too in my opinion.
Full blocks look 10x better agreed, I just was looking to get 2 mcw82 for my 6950 because they are non-ref. Why couldn't you just use more heat sinks on the vrms (if that's possible, I'm a noob)?
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Full blocks look 10x better agreed, I just was looking to get 2 mcw82 for my 6950 because they are non-ref. Why couldn't you just use more heat sinks on the vrms (if that's possible, I'm a noob)?
More heat sinks will work. But I see you are using an 800D. So you probably know that the airflow isn't the best in the world. How close are your GPU's together on your motherboard? If they are almost touching each other, then you're going to have to probably get a fan blowing down the middle of the cards in order for the RAM sinks to work effectively on the top card.

But I may totally be wrong about this, hopefully someone can clarify.
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More heat sinks will work. But I see you are using an 800D. So you probably know that the airflow isn't the best in the world. How close are your GPU's together on your motherboard? If they are almost touching each other, then you're going to have to probably get a fan blowing down the middle of the cards in order for the RAM sinks to work effectively on the top card.

But I may totally be wrong about this, hopefully someone can clarify.
I cant have them right next to each other they would hit 90 C and stop working lol... thank god I got the ud7 because it has another pcie slot on the bottom and that's the only way to keep them cool. All at 100% fan too. Well I haven't bought anything yet, I'm just exploring options atm, but I hate how loud the tf3's are at 100% fan speed. Right now water cooling seams like a good option for silence and performance.
post #9167 of 13773
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Originally Posted by hammertime850 View Post
I cant have them right next to each other they would hit 90 C and stop working lol... thank god I got the ud7 because it has another pcie slot on the bottom and that's the only way to keep them cool. All at 100% fan too. Well I haven't bought anything yet, I'm just exploring options atm, but I hate how loud the tf3's are at 100% fan speed. Right now water cooling seams like a good option for silence and performance.
I understand completely. Well I hope you find what you are looking for at the price you like.

Here's a website for comparing Universal Blocks I think can be a pretty good tool to use if you haven't read it already.

http://skinneelabs.com/universalgpu-nv480/

I'm not sure if it can apply to ATI cards as well though as the author notes in the last page.
post #9168 of 13773
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I understand completely. Well I hope you find what you are looking for at the price you like.

Here's a website for comparing Universal Blocks I think can be a pretty good tool to use if you haven't read it already.

http://skinneelabs.com/universalgpu-nv480/

I'm not sure if it can apply to ATI cards as well though as the author notes in the last page.
holy crap those ek blocks beat the mwc80 by 10 C!! wow. thanks alot you made my decision harder lol, thanks for that article btw very helpful.
post #9169 of 13773
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Originally Posted by hammertime850 View Post
What makes you say this? Looking around the internet it seams that a universal (+ ram sinks) will do just as good as full-cover if not better.
Ram sinks are not the best coolers, especially with low direct airflow. (SLI makes this worse)
Without proper cooling they can overheat, and over time they are more likely to fail. The VRM's getting too hot is not a problem with a full cover water block.
post #9170 of 13773
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Originally Posted by Taylorsci View Post
Ram sinks are not the best coolers, especially with low direct airflow. (SLI makes this worse)
Without proper cooling they can overheat, and over time they are more likely to fail. The VRM's getting too hot is not a problem with a full cover water block.
so someone would have to install a fan and direct it the heat sinks (which would be awkward looking) gotcha
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