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Messing with the PhysX settings in Nvidia's control panel does nothing for the Physics portion of 3DMark 11. Stop spreading misinformation.
 
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post #5272 of 6999
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did u try it?

i did try to run the physics on the CPU and GPU and i could do it on only the CPU but when u set it to auto than the GPU helps with the physics thumb.gif

All I would ask of you is to show some screenies illustrating the difference. Include all relevant information please.
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post #5273 of 6999
Nvidia Has a dedicated Physx (NVIDIA Physics) unit on the Card whereas a AMD card doesn't have any and then you have your main processing and physics on your CPU so its harder to do everything on a AMD card while adding some higher end Physics!

the Nvidia units have that already built in so no need to offload that on the CPU hence better physics scores as no delays in speed that the CPU can do it compared to a dedicated Processor that is made especially for the job!

and if u do not believe me fine go look that up for yourself and go to the nvidia page and u can learn a lot about that part thumb.gif
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post #5274 of 6999
oh here are a couple of links that explain some of this.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_faq.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX

so maybe think again for saying that some one is spreading misinformation thumb.gif
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post #5275 of 6999
3dmark11 Physics is based on the cpu used in the bench. Simple as that.
    
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post #5276 of 6999
Don't you've any other reason to praise NVIDIA? I'm sure there are plenty.
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Nvidia Has a dedicated Physx (NVIDIA Physics) unit on the Card whereas a AMD card doesn't have any and then you have your main processing and physics on your CPU so its harder to do everything on a AMD card while adding some higher end Physics!

the Nvidia units have that already built in so no need to offload that on the CPU hence better physics scores as no delays in speed that the CPU can do it compared to a dedicated Processor that is made especially for the job!

and if u do not believe me fine go look that up for yourself and go to the nvidia page and u can learn a lot about that part thumb.gif

Physx enabled


Physx disabled


Doesn't really make any difference since 3dmark 11 doesn't use physx (neither does the new 3dmark), physics is different & does not run on the gpu, physx was not the way it was meant to be played.
Physx only worked for 3dmark vantage & for some games, & is basically a cheat in vantage. Fine for the games it works with, but has no place in benchmarks.
    
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Nvidia Has a dedicated Physx (NVIDIA Physics) unit on the Card whereas a AMD card doesn't have any and then you have your main processing and physics on your CPU so its harder to do everything on a AMD card while adding some higher end Physics!

the Nvidia units have that already built in so no need to offload that on the CPU hence better physics scores as no delays in speed that the CPU can do it compared to a dedicated Processor that is made especially for the job!

and if u do not believe me fine go look that up for yourself and go to the nvidia page and u can learn a lot about that part thumb.gif

3DMark 11 does not use PhysX, how many times do people have to tell you?
 
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I see that my previous posts have been deleted so I obviously crossed a line and I apologize for that.
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Nvidia Has a dedicated Physx (NVIDIA Physics) unit on the Card whereas a AMD card doesn't have any and then you have your main processing and physics on your CPU so its harder to do everything on a AMD card while adding some higher end Physics!

the Nvidia units have that already built in so no need to offload that on the CPU hence better physics scores as no delays in speed that the CPU can do it compared to a dedicated Processor that is made especially for the job!

and if u do not believe me fine go look that up for yourself and go to the nvidia page and u can learn a lot about that part thumb.gif

First of all you have to understand what you read and you don't no matter what they say at the MSI forums.

Do you understand what this means?

"PhysX is a proprietary realtime physics engine middleware SDK."

"Video games(or benchmarks) supporting hardware acceleration by PhysX can be accelerated by either a PhysX PPU or a CUDA-enabled GeForce GPU (if it has at least 256MB of dedicated VRAM), thus offloading physics calculations from the CPU, allowing it to perform other tasks instead. In theory this should result in a smoother gaming experience and allow additional visual effects."

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oh here are a couple of links that explain some of this.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_faq.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX

so maybe think again for saying that some one is spreading misinformation thumb.gif

You need to read this to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physics_engine

Now go and check which physics engine Futuremark has used on 3DMark11 then you can ask Futuremark if they allow physics to run on either Cuda cores or a PhysX PPD.

And please post back with your findings

FYI
I've got more than 100 results with different GPU's to show with both NV GPU's from GTX480, GTX580 and GTX680 and AMD GPU's from HD5970, HD6970 and 7970 and I KNOW that PhysX has no effect on the physics score. In earlier 3DMarks like Vantage 06 it does but your score will not be valid.
    
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For FutureMark to be able to use NVidia's PhysX they would need to get permission and then show the trade mark in the credits....that would make it legal, otherwise NVidia would sue FutureMark, do you see the NVidia PhysX logo in the benchmark?
   
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