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Originally Posted by YounGMessiah View Post

This is what im not understanding, people are getting way better physics score than I.  I also have a 3570K @ 4.5, 1.21V

Check your load temps. If they're really high, Ivybridge will throttle the CPU and performance plummets. Reset your CPU to stock clocks and you might find that your Physics score is actually higher. That's what made me realize it (new to Ivybridge biggrin.gif).
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Originally Posted by hurricane28 View Post

well yes i am and i want to buy another card but i cannot decide what brand i should get.

i like nvidia and i like AMD but for now it seems that AMD have more performance per dollar/euro but i like the advanced physX as well on the nvidia cards.

i just want to do some research on the net and talk and ask to people what they have and in their opinion would be the best solution for me because i saw some benchmarks and they and a lot of them claim that the 680 outperforms a 7970 but the user experience says that the 7970 wins 9 out of 10 , i am running only one 24inch monitor so i do not need like 3 or 4GB card.

thnx for the explanation thumb.gif

i think its best to see when the 700 series comes out and look what performance per dollar/euro you get.

I wouldn't base a purchase on whether not a card has PhysX, "Advanced" or not. As said above, so few games actually take advantage of PhysX that's it's not worth it to have a dedicated card. And don't get me wrong, PhysX games are nice, like Arkham City for example, Last Light, etc.

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P17511

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6616129

There was an error with showing the score, but in the score page you can see the score below in the detailed section.
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Check your load temps. If they're really high, Ivybridge will throttle the CPU and performance plummets. Reset your CPU to stock clocks and you might find that your Physics score is actually higher. That's what made me realize it (new to Ivybridge biggrin.gif).
 

I will reset and test around, but the physics test isnt raising my temperatures on my cpu.  (well nothing alarming or to cause it to throttle)

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So what I did was uninstall, then went to 1.0.3, I was getting a lot stronger physics score as you'll see below. I then upgraded back to 1.0.5 and the physics scores were EXACTLY the same area/range. So here is a little bit of data, if I were to go to windows 7 that would hopefully put me above 8000 and where I should be on these tests.

All clocks are exactly the same, I also did testing with a program called gamebooster which appears to do absolutely nothing and be a waste of hard disk space.

3dmark11 1.0.3 with gamebooster running
P14983
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6616105

3dmark11 1.0.3 without gamebooster running
P14996
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6616134

3dmark11 1.0.5 with gamebooster running
P15015
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6616227

3dmark11 1.0.5 without gamebooster running
P15060
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6616284

As you can see gamebooster is pretty much worthless, and reinstalling the 3dmark11 software gave me a huge improvement of 200-300 points on my physics score.
post #5355 of 6999
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That is okay dude,

and it is Advanced physX on nvidia and AMD its just physics

the difference is that Nvidia has an chip that takes care of the phys X and Amd uses the CPU as it is.


can you also explain to me why you never own an Nvidia card agian?

just curiosity thumb.gif

PhysX: a library that can run on either the CPU or GPU across not only the PC, but also the Wii, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 – as well as Linux. Acquired when NVIDIA purchased Ageia in February 2008, PhysX is a proprietary physics engine that allows game developers to enable physics effects in their titles.

Bullet: a physics library r developed by Erwin Coumans, an employee of Sony Computer Entertainment. Bullet is open-sourced under the zlib license, meaning that it is entirely free to incorporate into games and it’s got support for the same platforms as PhysX.

Havok: an engine owned by CPU manufacturer Intel. It offers the widest range of support for platforms, with handhelds supported alongside all consoles.

I own Nvidia cards and I don't find physX much of a factor. Perhaps if I was addicted to any of the games that use it I might care, but there aren't that many of them anyway.
3DMark11 uses Bullet Physics in both CPU and GPU benchmarks using Microsoft DirectCompute.
3DMarkVantage can use PhysX, but its use in Vantage invalidates your result as far as HWBot is concerned.
3DMark2001 uses Havok. There are more games that use Havok than PhysX.
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100% agree on this. My CPU scores from 200-400 pts. less than similar systems running Windows 7, even though my graphics score is higher than most of them. 3DMark (2013) however, produces much, much better results.

Here's my 3DMark 11 score (with Basic ver.):
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6610526

Latest 3DMark:
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/474176 - in this, I've the highest score at 1GHz GPU clocks

Note that I've paid / advanced version of the new 3DMark so some pts. here and there since I individually ran the benchmark without demo.
dropped mine over 1500points
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That is okay dude,

and it is Advanced physX on nvidia and AMD its just physics

the difference is that Nvidia has an chip that takes care of the phys X and Amd uses the CPU as it is.


can you also explain to me why you never own an Nvidia card agian?

just curiosity thumb.gif

as long as you all ... and i mean ALL of you guys understand this is simply my opinion and if you dont like it.... dont click on the spoiler Warning: Opinion! (Click to show)
i think nvidia are way way way overhyped in the gaming world. amd builds a better card, and has more bang for the buck. nvidia holds too much control over their products ( just like apple ( i wont buy that crap either {again ... my opinion }) amd lets the manufacture make their own decisions/designs. and lastly i think nvidias gaming hold is at an end. physix is dieing out and will soon be replaced
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thank you very much guys for the good explanation thumb.gif

and yes i do agree that Nvidia cards are way overpriced and Amd delivers more for your buck.

seriously i am considering buying an Amd card but there are so many to choose from, i like the Asus cards but i have a bad experience with their cards before so i think twice of buying their product.

What would be a good manufacturer to buy from?
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i can get the GTX 780 here, i love the way that card looks biggrin.gif

its or the GTX 780 or the 7970 it depends on my budget.
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I just got a new result I would like to share biggrin.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6620474

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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7.2K 16MB Cache Prolimatech Megahalem Rev.B (Push/Pull) Windows 7 Home Premium 64 
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HP OMEN Z4D33AA 27" 1440p 165Hz 1MS G-Sync Razer BlackWidow Ultimate  OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W XClio Windtunnel 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech G502 Proteus Core Tunable  Razer Goliathus 444mm x 355mm - Speed Edition ... 
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AMD Phenom II 720 X3 BE @ 3.2GHz 24/7 MSi 770-G45 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870  8GB GSkill RipJaw 1333Mhz  
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1TB Samsung F3  DVD+-RW  Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 60" LG 60PA5500 Plasma 
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Acer X1373WH Projector Corsair CX500 Cooler Master 430 
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i5-2430M Intel HD Graphics  Nvidia 1GB GT 550M (GF116) w/Optimus|DX11|144 ... 6GB DDR3  
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120GB PNY 1311 SSD 500GB 7.2K RPM Windows7 Home Premium 64 17.3" WLED TL 1600 X 900 with 2.0MP HD webcam 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 930 @ 4.0GHz (24/7) HT/on  Asus P6TD Deluxe Gigabyte 2GB GTX 670 Windforce3X OC  6GB OCZ Gold 1600 (tri-channel) 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Seagate Barracuda 500GB 7.2K 16MB Cache Prolimatech Megahalem Rev.B (Push/Pull) Windows 7 Home Premium 64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP OMEN Z4D33AA 27" 1440p 165Hz 1MS G-Sync Razer BlackWidow Ultimate  OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W XClio Windtunnel 
MouseMouse Pad
Logitech G502 Proteus Core Tunable  Razer Goliathus 444mm x 355mm - Speed Edition ... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 720 X3 BE @ 3.2GHz 24/7 MSi 770-G45 Sapphire Radeon HD 6870  8GB GSkill RipJaw 1333Mhz  
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
1TB Samsung F3  DVD+-RW  Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 60" LG 60PA5500 Plasma 
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Acer X1373WH Projector Corsair CX500 Cooler Master 430 
CPUGraphicsGraphicsRAM
i5-2430M Intel HD Graphics  Nvidia 1GB GT 550M (GF116) w/Optimus|DX11|144 ... 6GB DDR3  
Hard DriveHard DriveOSMonitor
120GB PNY 1311 SSD 500GB 7.2K RPM Windows7 Home Premium 64 17.3" WLED TL 1600 X 900 with 2.0MP HD webcam 
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Backlit Keyboard Elemental Silver Aluminum JBL 2.1 W/ Built-in Subwoofer 
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