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Nope, actually just went into bios and double-checked, running at 4.6ghz ATM.

I do have a lot of tex mods.


Disabling ELFX Exteriors seemed to bring me up to 57, with SMIM disabled it hit 58-59.

Still, it's annoying I have to disable all this when I'm really just running texture mods and SMIM as my main graphical overhauls

ELFX has caused me a lot of grief. I ended up not using it. It seems to clash with too many house mods that I used too.
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Considering the rig in your sig that is odd. My wife's system which is much less than yours is butter smooth all the time at 1080 with a ton of mods. My system with a 290X is running 1440 at max with a bunch of mods and no performance issues.

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Probably a CPU bottleneck. Solitude is a big city with a lot of NPCs. My fps drop to 40-45 fps in some corners. But you have a 2500K overclocked so you shouldn't have much problem unless you have a system hog ENB installed then I can understand.

Edit: Was also running at 4xMSAA, 8xMSAA brings the 50 up to a 52 average, funny enough. Yet again though just sits at 52.

No ENB's, no COT, just Pure Weather which has about 0% performance hit. My FPS literally drops in 1 spot. GPU usage is max 47%, CPU usage is about 70-80% on all cores.. could it really be a CPU bottleneck with that usage? I would think my 2500k could handle itself.

Max vram usage is 2055. Although with Skyrim and all my tabs open I am pulling about 7860mb pagefile and 5774mb ram usage.

As you can see in this 1 spot, 50 FPS, never dips below 50, literally caps at 50.




A few inches literally to the left, and boom, solid 60.


Did you try turning down shadows? I think when you went left, the bushes went off screen which probably flickered a bunch of shadows.
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Did you try turning down shadows? I think when you went left, the bushes went off screen which probably flickered a bunch of shadows.

Been playing BF4, will check that soon, but it doesn't make much sense as no where else in Solitude drops my FPS.
    
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Lowering shadows to High from Ultra keeps it capped at 60, no slow-downs anymore, even with ELFX.

Is it just Skyrims shoddy optimization? I feel like I should be able to max it out, but perhaps not.
    
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Lowering shadows to High from Ultra keeps it capped at 60, no slow-downs anymore, even with ELFX.

Is it just Skyrims shoddy optimization? I feel like I should be able to max it out, but perhaps not.
Even with mods, a 780 should have no trouble maxing skyrim and keeping 60fps
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Lowering shadows to High from Ultra keeps it capped at 60, no slow-downs anymore, even with ELFX.

Is it just Skyrims shoddy optimization? I feel like I should be able to max it out, but perhaps not.

Unfortunately skyrim is not that well optimized, doesn't take advantage of more than 2 core, DX9 game in DX11 era and uses x87 instead of x86 which murders the performance on AMD processors mainly, so yeah.
BTW do you have any parallax mods installed ? if so those destroy fps and require a lot of processing power and are one of the main reasons of slowdowns in cities.
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Even with mods, a 780 should have no trouble maxing skyrim and keeping 60fps

At the time of the slowdowns he get low GPU usage. so it is not the 780 Ti. It is either a CPU bottleneck or the game engine went nuts because of the number of mods installed.
Sometime the engine just doesn't cope well when you have way too many mods especially textures, parallax mods and system hog enbs. Before re-installing my game I was getting about 30 fps in cities. And about 15-20 fps in Civil War quests (when a lot of NPCs going on the screen).
I re-installed the game with only the essential mods, I didn't install any mods that I won't use, after reinstalling the game the lowest fps I got is about 50 fps in Civil War quests. and about 55-60 fps in cities, also got about 8 GB more free space which is nice.
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Yeah. I remember reading somewhere that shadows is pretty bad even on the best cards.
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Even with mods, a 780 should have no trouble maxing skyrim and keeping 60fps

You'd think
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Unfortunately skyrim is not that well optimized, doesn't take advantage of more than 2 core, DX9 game in DX11 era and uses x87 instead of x86 which murders the performance on AMD processors mainly, so yeah.
BTW do you have any parallax mods installed ? if so those destroy fps and require a lot of processing power and are one of the main reasons of slowdowns in cities.


At the time of the slowdowns he get low GPU usage. so it is not the 780 Ti. It is either a CPU bottleneck or the game engine went nuts because of the number of mods installed.
Sometime the engine just doesn't cope well when you have way too many mods especially textures, parallax mods and system hog enbs. Before re-installing my game I was getting about 30 fps in cities. And about 15-20 fps in Civil War quests (when a lot of NPCs going on the screen).
I re-installed the game with only the essential mods, I didn't install any mods that I won't use, after reinstalling the game the lowest fps I got is about 50 fps in Civil War quests. and about 55-60 fps in cities, also got about 8 GB more free space which is nice.

As far as texture mods, here's my list. No ENB's, no parallax.




Still feel it's odd, I do have 80-some plugins but most are for things like new patrols, quests, etc.
    
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Now here's a.. "what" question, all vanilla, alternate start mod only to speed things up. Same spot, 54 FPS. This is in VANILLA skyrim. What the heck
    
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Now here's a.. "what" question, all vanilla, alternate start mod only to speed things up. Same spot, 54 FPS. This is in VANILLA skyrim. What the heck

It is because the optimization on Skyrim is piss poor. There is a reason many believe that TES games would flop without mod support. TES games and modding come hand in hand. biggrin.gif
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