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Just a heads up for people who find that their game starts to run a little slow during long gaming sessions, use this console command:
Quote:
pcb

It stands for "purge cell buffers"; which will forcibly purge all cells that are not needed in the cache and free up memory. It will not work right when you enter the game obviously because all the cells that load around you are needed... but if you are going in and out of a lot of buildings or fast traveling a lot then it will definitely free up some memory. Like I said before, it is most useful during long game sessions if you notice any slowdown in the game. I recommend assigning it to a macro and just hitting the button every now and then.
post #6072 of 12885
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Originally Posted by modinn View Post

I apologize for the lengthy post. For those who aren't into optimizing their textures or reducing the size of their texture folder, you can skip this post. Otherwise read on, spoiler contains the majority of the post! Downsized for the folks not wanting to read it.
Hey there majin662, are you referring to my comment about resizing textures using DDSOpt? I ended up resizing the textures the day after writing that post. Honestly, I didn't think that my solution was going to work at first. Given that many people have had problems with the new versions of DDSOpt and some people just got broken textures after running their texture folder, I was very skeptical. But still I went ahead and compressed my folder as I said I would in the post and I'm back to post my findings and report what the results have been thus far.
Please bear with me, I promise that this is a post you'll want to read. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
So first thing I did was limit most folders to 1024 excluding architecture, landscape, dungeons, and terrain. Architecture and dungeons were limited to 2048 and landscape and terrain were limited to 4098 for some of the rock and ground textures (otherwise they looked rather sparse). The folders I did NOT touch are blood, effects, impactdecals, sky, and water (these folders gave me the only glitches I saw after compressing).
Note that I used the latest version 0.70 for this write-up. Using the settings listed in the picture below and turning off all of the Skip options in the Settings tab, I processed my textures folder by folder. At the end my results were 5.4 GB → 3.58 GB. 33% reduction! Let's see how it fared in-game. Note I tried to normalize variables as much as possible to not skew results. I used MSI Afterburner to track my Memory usage on my second monitor. I used ENB's FPS counter to monitor framerate.
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Notice that this is with MSAA 4x+FXAA HQ injected, 1080p, 1024x2048 shadow maps with ultra shadows tweaked in, UGridsToLoad=9, and ENB turned on. So the majority of my memory was going to AA, shadows, and ugridstoload.
15 minutes of gameplay in Whiterun tundra, east of Falkreath, and outside of Solitude. 1717MB Max Usage (versus 1791 MB with original folder). Note that I didn't compress landscape or architecture that much, so saving here are going to be sparse and ugridstoload=9 takes it toll as well.
15 minutes of gameplay in Whiterun including Breezehome, Jorrvaskr, Dragonsreach, and the Bannered Mare. 1863MB Max usage (versus 1995MB with original folder, probably maxed out). I think it could be a cell buffer thing that only Bethesda can fix seeing as how some houses seem to share the same cell as Whiterun itself.... Hopefully that's included in the memory optimizations.
Here are some comparison pics of using the stock mod texture folder (top) and my optimized folder (bottom). Only difference I see is a slight loss of clarity in the wood poles in Dragonreach.
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Conclusion: With a 33% reduction in size, at least a 100 MB of VRAM saved in towns, and not many noticeable degradations in quality. I'm going to have to recommend recompressing textures at this time. But I would hold off until DDSOpt gets a stable release out before the average person uses it. Feel free to experiment with it yourself, and remember to backup your Texture folder!

i was referencing your post indeed. I just reinstalled everything again (lol, damn tweakers never leave well enough alone) so when I went mod hunting I decided to not download every single super ultra hi def 20000x40000 texture mod out and instead went somewhat by your logical advice. Why do I need a 4096 butterfly??? he's on screen as far as I care about him for a few milliseconds yet there he is in my ugrid...sucking up my vrams :-) So I'm going to use that as my base and run from there into ddsopt-ing the main stuff mentioned. Hoping that keeps me low enough to use ugrids 9 because man when it's working...magnifico !!!

I really wish there was a definitive INI guide that hashed out what actually is tweakable. I did the saveini console command to generate a huge master ini and saw soooooo many settings that look like they'd really improve stuff but you change em and there is no giant "HEY THIS IS WORKING" sign that pops up. Like "buseharddrivecache=" its default is 0...but my ssd has 256mb ddr2 cache in it...pretty sure that'd be pretty bad ass to have if it worked...so on and so forth..

anywho thanks for the common sense approach you posted...I am about to find out how it all works out personally.
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So um I screwed up my uGrids.... Now Im stuck with a red tint menu and my 100 hour save argonian not loading. I tried the fix that you refresh an ini through the console and it didnt seem to work so I deleted the ini and let the game create me a new one. Now I cant load my save and my menus and loading screens are tinted red =( help me... Please!


did you save the ini or did you refresh it???

saving it will generate a massive ini hidden somewhere in your skyrim folder that is mislabeled something like "RandomMod.INI" instead of "RandomMod.esp" Find that bad boy and delete him and the red tint is gone...That is also the master ini where you will find sooo many mouth salivating..."man i wish these tweaks worked" settings.

the new ugrids fix for people if it hasnt been passed on yet is to load a game with the ugrids that you don't want anymore...ALT tab out....fix the ugrids in your ini to what you DO want...then tab back..refresh ini do not save ini..just refresh it....save your game..exit..ugrids fixed
Edited by majin662 - 1/20/12 at 4:40pm
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You cannot load savegames, created while using different ugrids. You will have to go back and find a ugrid that was default, vanilla.

Dam so that save is gone? And anyone know how to get rid of the red tint on the dragon in the main menu and the items in the loading screens?

Try this... paste the below text into notepad and save it as "ugrids5.bat" and then put it in your Skyrim folder (where you TESV.exe is located). Load up your game with the ugrids setting that you used to save the saved-game-file (probably ugrid 7 or 9 I would guess); your game will not load if you try to initially load it up with a ugrid setting that is lower than the one that was used in the saved game. Once you get in game open up your console and type "bat ugrids5"; once the batch file has completed then create a new save point and exit the game. You can then check your Skyrim.ini file in your "My Games" folder to make sure that the ini setting was saved properly... and now you should be back to the default ugrids setting. If you are trying to revert from 9 to 7 (or any other higher ugridstoload to lower), simply change the 5 to a 7 and save it under a different batch file name (ie. ugrids7). Just make sure you load the new save when you load up the game next time and you should be good to go wink.gif Good luck.
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setini "ugridstoload:general" 5
setini "rUIMistMenu_AmbientZPosRGB:Interface" 255,255,255
setini "rUIMistMenu_AmbientZNegRGB:Interface" 255,255,255
setini "rUIMistMenu_AmbientYPosRGB:Interface" 255,255,255
setini "rUIMistMenu_AmbientYNegRGB:Interface" 255,255,255
setini "rUIMistMenu_AmbientXPosRGB:Interface" 255,255,255
setini "rUIMistMenu_AmbientXNegRGB:Interface" 255,255,255
saveini
refreshini
post #6074 of 12885
Do this ^.

Also, open your Data folder in your Skyrim directory and tell me if you see any files that end with .ini or say "Configuration settings" beside of it. This can sometimes be the cause of the newly created ini's not working. If you have an .ini in your Data folder, sometimes Skyrim likes to use it over the one in your My Games/Skyrim folder.

And no, 99% of the time your save file won't be "done for". We're just gonna have to find out what the problem is first. smile.gif
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Just a heads up for people who find that their game starts to run a little slow during long gaming sessions, use this console command:
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pcb
It stands for "purge cell buffers"; which will forcibly purge all cells that are not needed in the cache and free up memory. It will not work right when you enter the game obviously because all the cells that load around you are needed... but if you are going in and out of a lot of buildings or fast traveling a lot then it will definitely free up some memory. Like I said before, it is most useful during long game sessions if you notice any slowdown in the game. I recommend assigning it to a macro and just hitting the button every now and then.

Yep, or you know, you could shut it off for a few minutes and take a break. Seriously.
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Speaking of ragdolls, here's a more realistic ragdoll physics mod I've been using for awhile now. http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=601
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Just a heads up for people who find that their game starts to run a little slow during long gaming sessions, use this console command:
Quote:
pcb
It stands for "purge cell buffers"; which will forcibly purge all cells that are not needed in the cache and free up memory. It will not work right when you enter the game obviously because all the cells that load around you are needed... but if you are going in and out of a lot of buildings or fast traveling a lot then it will definitely free up some memory. Like I said before, it is most useful during long game sessions if you notice any slowdown in the game. I recommend assigning it to a macro and just hitting the button every now and then.

Yep, or you know, you could shut it off for a few minutes and take a break. Seriously.

I spend half the year working my rear off so that I can sit on it the other half of the year; let's just say I am on the sitting part of the year wink.gif That being said, I have spent more time installing and tweaking mods in the past few weeks then actually playing the game, lol
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HES STILL ALIVE!!! Thank you all, give me like an hour to work on an essay and I will tell you how I did it! XD Couldnt have been saved without you guys, maybe I should write my personal essay on the recovery of my Argonian. Then again no lol
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I spend half the year working my rear off so that I can sit on it the other half of the year; let's just say I am on the sitting part of the year wink.gif That being said, I have spent more time installing and tweaking mods in the past few weeks then actually playing the game, lol

Are you actually getting upset about me suggesting you shut the game off when you go to the washroom or grab something to eat? Really? You guys will argue about anything.
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Sky, clear or blue?

Hmm...depends on the time of day. wink.gif
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