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Bethesda: Skyrim DLC Will Feel More Like Expansion Packs

"For Fallout 3 we did five DLCs," Howard told me during an interview last week at the DICE Summit. "That was a very aggressive path for us. Our plan now is to take more time, to have more meat on them [for Skyrim]. They'll feel closer to an expansion pack."

"It looks like a ton of stuff that could ship right now," he admitted, "but it's in a sizzle video. It's, you know, it's not bug-tested, polished, balanced." He thinks it shows off the creativity of his team and says that some of it is being worked on, but don't take that as the blueprint for the expansions.

Of course, he couldn't resist teasing more: "That wasn't all of it. It's probably 60% of it. The other 40% doesn't show as well in a video or we didn't have good footage."
    
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Bethesda: Skyrim DLC Will Feel More Like Expansion Packs
"For Fallout 3 we did five DLCs," Howard told me during an interview last week at the DICE Summit. "That was a very aggressive path for us. Our plan now is to take more time, to have more meat on them [for Skyrim]. They'll feel closer to an expansion pack."
"It looks like a ton of stuff that could ship right now," he admitted, "but it's in a sizzle video. It's, you know, it's not bug-tested, polished, balanced." He thinks it shows off the creativity of his team and says that some of it is being worked on, but don't take that as the blueprint for the expansions.
Of course, he couldn't resist teasing more: "That wasn't all of it. It's probably 60% of it. The other 40% doesn't show as well in a video or we didn't have good footage."

Right... considering how buggy, unpolished, unbalanced, and obviously NOT tested the game first was on release, Bethesda should have no inhibition shipping it now. rolleyes.gif I will decide how I feel about this AFTER i see the pricing for the DLC.
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Here's my 2 pennies though for ANYONE considering modding Skyrim, especially those following STEP. Don't just install 150 mods because a list tells you to. Stop and ask yourself how YOU wanna play. What I mean is why on earth is a 2 handed berserker warrior downloading 20 different MAGIC mods??? Its needlessly eating up your HDD,VRAM,RAM, etc. Fixes I understand regardless of play style because they help stability. Just stop and ask yourself some questions as you mod. "Do I even use this when I play?? How many times have I ACTUALLY run across,used,needed item X??? So do I NEED to have it at 4096 resolution because a list told me to install it?? Get what I'm saying?

If ya need anymore help modding skyrim feel free to ask, because honestly MODDING SKYRIM is the REAL game, playing skyrim, well thats just silly thumb.gif

Yes indeed, I have one other bit of advice, which may not apply so much today but in non-steam games, I tend to backup the entire game to a "vanilla" folder before I start modding, that way if anything goes bonkers I can just start with the fresh files. May not apply to this game or steam games in general since you can just redownload it, or I suppose use the steam backup feature.

I spent a few hours putting together parts of several armor texture mods, I used the bulk of one pack, then select few from another, and then a hd shield pack from another. All combined I get some excellent looking armors that I would actually use, plus the rest of them that I will likely never use look great for all the npc's thumb.gif

Sadly can't do much more in the way of texture modding till I upgrade gpu haha, maxing vram most of the time now as it is..
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http://kotaku.com/5885983/bethesda-skyrim-dlc-will-feel-more-like-expansion-packs/
Bethesda: Skyrim DLC Will Feel More Like Expansion Packs
"For Fallout 3 we did five DLCs," Howard told me during an interview last week at the DICE Summit. "That was a very aggressive path for us. Our plan now is to take more time, to have more meat on them [for Skyrim]. They'll feel closer to an expansion pack."
"It looks like a ton of stuff that could ship right now," he admitted, "but it's in a sizzle video. It's, you know, it's not bug-tested, polished, balanced." He thinks it shows off the creativity of his team and says that some of it is being worked on, but don't take that as the blueprint for the expansions.
Of course, he couldn't resist teasing more: "That wasn't all of it. It's probably 60% of it. The other 40% doesn't show as well in a video or we didn't have good footage."

Right... considering how buggy, unpolished, unbalanced, and obviously NOT tested the game first was on release, Bethesda should have no inhibition shipping it now. rolleyes.gif I will decide how I feel about this AFTER i see the pricing for the DLC.

Meh I dunno, I never really jumped onto the Fallout series (will eventually), so I'm not sure how modders reacted to the DLC. Really just about anything Bethesda puts out can be done by modders, maybe even better. The new storylines/areas are what Bethesda has brought to the table before and modders don't typically do those (in as large a scale), but other enhancements, well, there are usually an alternative to DLC provided by the community.
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Yes indeed, I have one other bit of advice, which may not apply so much today but in non-steam games, I tend to backup the entire game to a "vanilla" folder before I start modding, that way if anything goes bonkers I can just start with the fresh files. May not apply to this game or steam games in general since you can just redownload it, or I suppose use the steam backup feature.


I do this aswell.

 

What I also do is keep all the mod zip files I've downloaded from STEP (because I install manually mostly) in a folder on my 2tb External HD to save me from redownloading them if anything goes stupid.

 

 

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Hey guys

How much VRAM do I need for TES Skyrim with mods on highest settings at 1920x1080?
I know it comes down to the mods but I heard some people say 1.5GB VRAM isn't enough for Skyrim with mods.

I already got an i5 2500 and now I need to decide if it's worth to get a 3GB VRAM card. I'm currently deciding between 2nd hand GTX 580 1.5GB ($300), 2nd hand GTX 580 3GB (around $420) or a HD 7950.
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Hey guys
How much VRAM do I need for TES Skyrim with mods on highest settings at 1920x1080?
I know it comes down to the mods but I heard some people say 1.5GB VRAM isn't enough for Skyrim with mods.
I already got an i5 2500 and now I need to decide if it's worth to get a 3GB VRAM card. I'm currently deciding between 2nd hand GTX 580 1.5GB ($300), 2nd hand GTX 580 3GB (around $420) or a HD 7950.

with any mods installed on my 2 5870s i got a bunch of stuttering.
with my 7970 its smooth as butter thumb.gif
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that 580 with 3Gb would be a beast for mods @ 1920x1080. i have the 560 ti 448's in sli and i easily fill up the 1280mb of Vram on them if I do all FULL 4096 mods etc. This game could push you above 2Gb I imagine in the next few months. I'd honestly say the 3Gb 580. give you plenty of vram and gpu power to go full detail on most mods. (even if it's not needed)
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Hey guys
How much VRAM do I need for TES Skyrim with mods on highest settings at 1920x1080?
I know it comes down to the mods but I heard some people say 1.5GB VRAM isn't enough for Skyrim with mods.
I already got an i5 2500 and now I need to decide if it's worth to get a 3GB VRAM card. I'm currently deciding between 2nd hand GTX 580 1.5GB ($300), 2nd hand GTX 580 3GB (around $420) or a HD 7950.

I have all the most popular texture mods and mine uses all 2GB of my VRAM.....not sure vanilla though.

Edit: I do not experience stutter though..it uses all 2GB but it doesn't "need" it....just uses it cause its there!

I would say get the 7950 if you can afford it thumb.gif
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Hey guys
How much VRAM do I need for TES Skyrim with mods on highest settings at 1920x1080?
I know it comes down to the mods but I heard some people say 1.5GB VRAM isn't enough for Skyrim with mods.
I already got an i5 2500 and now I need to decide if it's worth to get a 3GB VRAM card. I'm currently deciding between 2nd hand GTX 580 1.5GB ($300), 2nd hand GTX 580 3GB (around $420) or a HD 7950.

On my 7970, I have seen 2050mb of Vram used with all STEP mods added. I would go for a 7970 3gb over a 580 3gb just because they are the same price and the 7970 is faster by a good margin (20-25%), but a 580 is a great choice if you are an Nvidia only guy.
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On my 7970, I have seen 2050mb of Vram used with all STEP mods added. I would go for a 7970 3gb over a 580 3gb just because they are the same price and the 7970 is faster by a good margin (20-25%), but a 580 is a great choice if you are an Nvidia only guy.

You missed his cost quotes. GTX 580 3GB @ $420 is a at least a 100 cheaper than the 7970.

My votes for the 3GB 580.
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