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So, are there any performance tricks for this game, or are my 6950's either A. Really horrible cards, or B. Everyone else sprinkes magical fairy dust over their Skyrim copy xD

I see people with similar machines to mine running this game all ultra'd out, with Skyrim HD and all the big mods, enhanced shaders etc.. with very smooth FPS in towns, my FPS plummets in towns and sometimes isn't even 60 outside.

Waaaat :|
    
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I haven't gotten around completing a second play through... I should stop buying games and give it a go tongue.gif
    
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So, are there any performance tricks for this game, or are my 6950's either A. Really horrible cards, or B. Everyone else sprinkes magical fairy dust over their Skyrim copy xD
I see people with similar machines to mine running this game all ultra'd out, with Skyrim HD and all the big mods, enhanced shaders etc.. with very smooth FPS in towns, my FPS plummets in towns and sometimes isn't even 60 outside.
Waaaat :|

Skyrim is known to be pretty crappy for Crossfire unless you can get the right Driver+CAP combination. With 356 mods, an 8 gig texture folder, Dynavision, and FXAA I'm still getting 60 fps almost everywhere and 45-50 in the most hard hitting of places on my 1x 6970. Your rig should be maxing out everywhere if you get the drivers straightened out.

Take a look at this thread, the OP has a list of Driver combos that give good performance for Crossfire.

Skyrim Crossfire
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Nice info Modinn, I never knew ATI had such dramas, I recall having to edit my readme for my INjFX mod after you beta tested it with ATI specific code, but I never knew it had such problems!
    
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Nice info Modinn, I never knew ATI had such dramas, I recall having to edit my readme for my INjFX mod after you beta tested it with ATI specific code, but I never knew it had such problems!

Single card setups, AMD has had no problems in Skyrim that I've heard. I've had nothing but great performance with the drivers I'm using a 12.1 Preview driver Link. Crossfire in Skyrim on the other hand, I haven't heard as many great things. And I just installed a new HX850 into my computer planning on putting a second card in my system the next month or so.

So now comes the big question, do I spend another $350 on a used 6970+W/B and hope that I can get Crossfire to perform well in Skyrim? The only other games I really play are Dirt 3 and BF3 (which have great Crossfire scaling on 69xx), and so Skyrim is the only thing that's worrying me.

The other alternative is to sell my current 6970+W/B for $325 or so and watch Ebay like a hawk to get my hands on a couple 3GB variants of the Evga GTX 580 Hydro Copper II for $425 each, spending $200-300 more in the process. I have to watercool whatever cards I get because of my case's airflow. Other requirements are 2GB of VRAM at minimum. My current mod setup is pushing 1850MB->Maxed out during gameplay, and I don't want to have to resort to lower quality textures if I don't have to. Or do I wait for the 680 and watch for the 580 prices to drop?

7970 is out of the question at this point because I don't want to pay $600 for a card without a waterblock plus the shoddy drivers for Skyrim. Sorry AMD, I've loved you since my first x1900 but drivers need to be sorted out for Skyrim before I come back... Otherwise I think 7970 is a great card.

What are your all's recommendations?
Edited by modinn - 3/19/12 at 4:20pm
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lol I decapitated a few ghosts on my char aswell, although they didn't drop anything. Who was getting daedric at level 20?? I don't think I even found a daedric piece till mid 30s and that was a short sword or dagger, nothing special to my char. I rock dragonbone set with daedric long swords now though.

I should have been more specific: this my first and only deadric and is also a fully crafted set of deadric.

I have level 100 smithing. And two pieces of armor that increase smithing by various percentages. Also a potion of smithing, I think it was 30 or 40% increase...and I made it at the skyforge for no particular reason. Really blows the bone armor I've been using out of the water although I could have probably made a superior set of that.

The hardest part obtaining all those deadra hearts by or chance or via purchase two at a time. Those hearts are expensive...

Now all I have to do is enchant it. I'm weak to magic still maybe i'll just cover with that. Or increase damage to archery on all the pieces. I'll single shot an elder dragon yet...
 
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Single card setups, AMD has had no problems in Skyrim that I've heard. I've had nothing but great performance with the drivers I'm using a 12.1 Preview driver Link. Crossfire in Skyrim on the other hand, I haven't heard as many great things. And I just installed a new HX850 into my computer planning on putting a second card in my system the next month or so.
So now comes the big question, do I spend another $350 on a used 6970+W/B and hope that I can get Crossfire to perform well in Skyrim? The only other games I really play are Dirt 3 and BF3 (which have great Crossfire scaling on 69xx), and so Skyrim is the only thing that's worrying me.
The other alternative is to sell my current 6970+W/B for $325 or so and watch Ebay like a hawk to get my hands on a couple 3GB variants of the Evga GTX 580 Hydro Copper II for $425 each, spending $200-300 more in the process. I have to watercool whatever cards I get because of my case's airflow. Other requirements are 2GB of VRAM at minimum. My current mod setup is pushing 1850MB->Maxed out during gameplay, and I don't want to have to resort to lower quality textures if I don't have to. Or do I wait for the 680 and watch for the 580 prices to drop?
7970 is out of the question at this point because I don't want to pay $600 for a card without a waterblock plus the shoddy drivers for Skyrim. Sorry AMD, I've loved you since my first x1900 but drivers need to be sorted out for Skyrim before I come back... Otherwise I think 7970 is a great card.
What are your all's recommendations?

Speak with my brother on Vortez, he can shed some light for you on the new cards and interviews from Cebit on new tech.

I would recommend 3D and every cent is worth it... if you can wait till new cards come out next week, prices will drop on current cards and then if you have the funds - snap up 2 nvidia cards and a 3d lcd!
    
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Single card setups, AMD has had no problems in Skyrim that I've heard. I've had nothing but great performance with the drivers I'm using a 12.1 Preview driver Link.


If you was to use 12.2 or 12.3, then turn on AA, your opinion would very quickly change, lol.

 

There is a very widely known issue with AMD drivers and AA with the past two versions where enabling AA causes bad graphical corruption.

 

 

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Speak with my brother on Vortez, he can shed some light for you on the new cards and interviews from Cebit on new tech.
I would recommend 3D and every cent is worth it... if you can wait till new cards come out next week, prices will drop on current cards and then if you have the funds - snap up 2 nvidia cards and a 3d lcd!

+1 I'll look into talking with him in the next week or so. I'm unfortunately part of that 5 to 10% of people who can't experience 3D due to an eye condition (Active shutter and Passive), so while I would love to do Nvidia 3D Vision it would be waste for me. If the 680 is as good as leaks are making it sound, I'd expect a lot of people posting their 580's on the Marketplace in the next week or two. So maybe I'll take your advice and snatch up an Nvidia card or two in the generation hiatus. Thanks for the suggestion thumb.gif
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If you was to use 12.2 or 12.3, then turn on AA, your opinion would very quickly change, lol.

There is a very widely known issue with AMD drivers and AA with the past two versions where enabling AA causes bad graphical corruption.

Before 12.2 and 12.3, Skyrim didn't even support Forced AA from the CCC (and according to ENBDev and the like, AMD has been fixing the driver hacks for Skyrim) That's why everyone's AA was doing fine. I'm guessing that Bethesda turned off that driver hack for that very reason. I remember back when Skyrim first came out that no matter what change I did to RadeonPro or CCC, the AA would not change in-game. That was just my experience with my 6970 card and 11.11->12.1 drivers and all the beta releases in between.
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