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BTW reporting in with another result wich happens to be a failure unfortunately, but this time it passed like 17 times on 18th run it failed...
I had this strategy in mind: when its cool - close the balcony, when it gets too hot - open it and when I was about to do so it crashed...

Vcore - 1.17500
IMC - 1.16250

Screenie:


So I guess its Vcore UP time - I checked when setting Vcore to 1.17500 that next is 1.18125 - so shall I apply that mate or we go for the number after 1.18125 ? And I assume we dont touch IMC ?
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Don't touch IMC yet. Yes up the vcore 1 or 2 more times
    
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Don't touch IMC yet. Yes up the vcore 1 or 2 more times
1 or 2 times from THIS value: 1.18125
meaning something around 1.19 or 1.20 ?
Please be more precise mate...
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I can't be more precise, I don't know the exact values of your bios, since not all the bios have the same increments.
From your last value, up it 1 time or 2 times.
Also I can't calm you down with the temps, you are using a stock cooler, I told you you won't be able to OC with it good. If you reach 1.20 Vcore, we need to get the IMC up.
    
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I can't be more precise, I don't know the exact values of your bios, since not all the bios have the same increments.
From your last value, up it 1 time or 2 times.
Also I can't calm you down with the temps, you are using a stock cooler, I told you you won't be able to OC with it good. If you reach 1.20 Vcore, we need to get the IMC up.
I will try to set it around 1.19 then and I will take a note of like 3-4 next values.
I have a new question for you then: What would me the maximal and most satisfying result with a stock cooler then ? Will I be able to push at least 3.2GHz ? Everybody regardless where I post say stock cooler is bad and I understand that but they also say that some overclocking is possible (3.3-3.4) and like I said I do not aim for high overclock because I know the limits more or less but I want to know them more then more or less (hope I didnt made it sound too complicated) - in other words I would like to achieve safe maximum that is possible with stock one. There are theories and we can at least write down the history of trying and somehow document the attempts for newbie overclockers like myself or people that want to go with stock cooling - what do you think about this idea ?
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3.2 Ghz should be 160 BCLK, try it.
    
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I am pleased to report with a sucess (!!!) of 50 times to run under high stress level at Intel Burn Test after setting my Vcore to 1.19375.



HOWEVER I did add some aditional cooling by opening my balcony (sort of half open state) with a temperature of -9 outside while doing this test so the temperatures here are not necessarily a reflection of what it would be normaly. Its like substracting ~4 degrees. In other words I can say I achieved an effect of aftermarket cooler while having stock cooler. I almost froze my balls too, but if I understand correctly cpu clock with the current settings is STABLE plus those temperatures wont get achieved by regular use therfore its safe for me to say that I acheved sucess ? Ofcourse there might be more heat when doing those tests again when room temperature is higher and especialy at summer but other then stress testing I understand that I can feel safe and happy ?
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One thing to note, Higher temperatures = More electrical resistance = Less stability. Even though the room temperature dropped to an unusual level, it will compensate for the extremely high temperatures produced from Linx/IBT. I would consider it a success, just not a victory.

Stay around on OCN for a while and I bet you will feel more confident. Only thing you have to worry about when replacing a cooler, is watch out for the plastic push pins(the way the stock cooler mounts to the MOBO, with plastic spreading pins). If you get a decent one, it will have better(easier and tighter) mounting. May have to remove the MOBO though, if your case doesnt have back panel access.

If you still feel like OCing(I find it enjoyable and challenging), or later down the road when you feel the urge, you may wanna try some different numbers. Try something like 21x157 or 19x173. I personally(and many other i7 owners) have found that odd numbers for the multi work better. I can get 21x191 4Ghz stable with 1.3 vcore and mostly stock other settings(easy). But with 20x200 4Ghz, I could not get stable for the life of me(didnt go past 1.42 vcore and 1.9Pll) or the computer.
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Stay around on OCN for a while and I bet you will feel more confident. Only thing you have to worry about when replacing a cooler, is watch out for the plastic push pins(the way the stock cooler mounts to the MOBO, with plastic spreading pins). If you get a decent one, it will have better(easier and tighter) mounting. May have to remove the MOBO though, if your case doesnt have back panel access.
No worries. Regardless of anything I plan on staying with overclock.net though I dont plan to learn how to replace stock cooling on my own. I would have to have somebody to instruct me but not via forum - in real life standing next to me, showing me exactly what to do before. Only then I might get it but Im preety sure it wouldnt come to me fast.

I did some benchmarking along with preOC of GPU overclocking it to 5770.
Here is a screenshot:

I dont know what the numbers mean however last time I checked CPU score was 19k I dont remember exactly about GPU score but it was always kinda like this - so this is the new field to for the experiments. Also notice the temperatures during benchmarking wich are kinda high, but they dont go beyond 80c wich means its okay ?

I am fully aware that winter time of year cooling has its disadvantages because doing same stress test in regular conditions will raise temperatures by the value it was cooled down - but then again stability stress test temperatures are not the real world temperatures so I guess I can live with that ? Or if I cant then we will have to try to do another overclocking jak3z to 3.20GHz with non winter cooling

Getting back to the current cpu settings I will get write down all the options from BIOS and post them. Will sort everything so it will look nice and fun to preview for other begginer overclockers or people that like me wanna do some oc with stock fan.

Again all the credits go to jak3z who helped me pull it off. Also thanks to goodtobeking for supporting me with good word.


jak3z my mate - after I have a conclusion and final word from you I think we will close this topic (unless we gonna go down with the clock - you tell me if its necessary) and move to overclocking GPU. Im gonna go to bed at late morning so I will check in tomorrow noon or late afternoon - not going to bed yet to do some aditional gaming test and from what I already see after playing Black Ops the max temp is like 62 wich I think is good - if its otherwise do not heasitate to tell me.

/edit:

I had a game of Unreal Tournament 3 - ofc max details and max resolution my monitor can give me.
Here are the temps right before game frozen, but fortunately I was able to kill it with task manager.
Didnt played long really. One battle team arena duel and what happened next was after the second game started it was like 3-3 or something like that.
Anyways here is the matherial:


BTW I caped my UT3 fps at 120.

/edit2:
Downloaded Prime95 64-bit v25.11 build2 - just dont know how to use it yet and if we will be going a clock down + tuning for that clock so I can run such kind of programs in regular room temperature without "winter cooling" ?

Let me know mate.
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