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Poll Results: Was your previous card ATI or NVIDIA?

 
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    ATI
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    NVIDIA
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So is it possible that a bad overclock could have caused the PC to reset?
Yes, any unstable overclock can cause a system reset.
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I just tried pulling 900 core for the Metro Benchmark and ended up hard resetting the PC. I have no idea why though. I've read in many places that 850w is more than enough to cover OC'ing two 580s and a full case of fans and the likes.

I also read that the HX-850 for short periods of time can safely pull much more than the sticker says it can. Just how much are these cards pulling?

I have limited choices when it comes to power supplies due to wanting to retain the bottom intake fan on my HAF 932 which is only compatible with PSUs not longer than 7.09".

Does anyone know if a full shutdown of the PC while benching is a sign of too much load on the PSU or is something else getting a bit wonky here? Phaedrus says that 850w is more than enough. :/
Even with both of my 580's at 900MHz and 1.1V, it never went past something like 810W power draw measured at the wall, while running Crysis benchmark or 3DMark 11. After efficiency of 90% is taken into consideration, I was looking at around 730W being drawn from the actual components. Therefore, an HX-850 is more than capable to handle what you're throwing at it. The issues you are looking at stem from an unstable OC as subz3ro mentioned.

Going back to the screw driver you needed for the backplates, the latest revisions of the 500 series cards don't seem to be using Torx screws anymore. When I installed the backplates on my cards, I was all set to use the same Husky Torx screw driver I bought from Lowe's (which I used last time on my 570's), only to be disheartened to find out they switched to regular small screws. Fortunately, this has started to come in handy for other uses, but that's a different story altogether.

With that said, I think you will find very minimal differences when switching out the TIM. EVGA supposedly uses a semi-low grade version of Shin-Etsu. Back when I had the 570's, I changed one of the cards out with the "higher grade" Shin-Etsu I bought from Microcenter, and was surprised to I find no difference whatsoever - maybe 1C difference, but certainly not enough to warrant the work put in to make it happen.

Unfortunately, if heat is an issue, you really only have several options:

- Don't overclock.
- Let it go and just deal with it, as the temps are still OK up to the mid 90's.
- Flash to the fanspeed unlocker and let the fans howl.
- Put in some aftermarket cooling (air or water).
- Change to a different motherboard that allows better slot spacing.

Sadly, SLI is just the gift that keeps on giving, lol!
     
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Hey I'm curious Blackbalt89 - and anyone else who has SLI any card,

If one card is a good over clocker and the other isn't much so as single over clocks would the one card hold back the other from reaching it's full potential?

I guess one way to find out is to test both cards seperately and see how high you can take each stable to see how much of a difference in overclock when they are running together stable.

I've always been a single gpu single card solution type of person. I'm curious because I love this card so much that come tax refund time ( I always over pay ) I'm going to SLI my 580 and by then hoping even prices come down.

Still nice score though Blackbalt89.
     
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Hey I'm curious Blackbalt89 - and anyone else who has SLI any card,

If one card is a good over clocker and the other isn't much so as single over clocks would the one card hold back the other from reaching it's full potential?

I guess one way to find out is to test both cards seperately and see how high you can take each stable to see how much of a difference in overclock when they are running together stable.

I've always been a single gpu single card solution type of person. I'm curious because I love this card so much that come tax refund time ( I always over pay ) I'm going to SLI my 580 and by then hoping even prices come down.

Still nice score though Blackbalt89.
Yes. The cards can always have different overclocking potential. But to combat that I threw the new card in the system by it's self and it ran 900 core at the same voltage.

So I might just trying jumping the voltage a bit more. Thanks guys.
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I would like to join. I am already part of the 400 series owners club with my 3 GTX 480's but I recently got a PNY GTX 570 XLR8 Enthusiast Edition card. Here is my GPU-z validation and here is my CPU-z validation both showing that I do in fact have a GTX 570 installed. I also wanted to post the CPU-z validation because I am super happy with my new i7-920 golden chip I got that will do 4.51504 GHz with only 1.376v I haven't verified the Batch number to see if it is in the known golden chip list but I think that the results speak for themselves right?
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Hoping my 580 will be in by the end of the week...moving up from a 2 gb 6950
    
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What is the highest that I should raise my voltage on my GTX 570? Also, what is the easiest way for me to be able to increase my fan speed all the way to 100% (the increase you GTX 570's fan speed for dummies version please)? I know about the whole BIOS thing but it wouldn't work for me hence me asking for the "for dummies" version. Does someone have a stock BIOS (or could someone modify my stock BIOS for me please) to just include the fan speed increase please? I already downloaded the MSI Afterburner beta with the voltage unlock but can't increase my fan speed.

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post #2788 of 5998
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What is the highest that I should raise my voltage on my GTX 570? Also, what is the easiest way for me to be able to increase my fan speed all the way to 100% (the increase you GTX 570's fan speed for dummies version please)? I know about the whole BIOS thing but it wouldn't work for me hence me asking for the "for dummies" version. Does someone have a stock BIOS (or could someone modify my stock BIOS for me please) to just include the fan speed increase please? I already downloaded the MSI Afterburner beta with the voltage unlock but can't increase my fan speed.

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Not sure on voltage regarding a 570 but I'm sure your going to get advice real soon from 570 owners from this club.

As for EVGA ( my favorite vendor ) you can download this updater that will not void your warranty that unlocks your fan speed as you see fit published by EVGA.

EVGA GTX 500 Series Fanspeed Unlockers .

Hope you didn't download a beta version of Afterburner. I use Afterburner myself because EVGA Precision Software dosen't allow for voltage tweaks, though I hear last version does haven't tried it yet. Get the real version of MSI Afterburner 2.1.0.

Definetly want to do a manul settings on that. In MSI Afterburner it's ' Settings / FAN / Check 'Enable user defined software automatic fan control'.

You'll have six points and can add a seventh if you need to by right clicking on the screen. You can decide if you want ' step ' scales or ' curved ' scales by double clicking the screen.

Also make sure on the front of Afterburner you also check 'Apply overclocking at system start up ' so you don't have to think about it anylonger.

Some people set those points 1C-1% fan.

40C - 40% / 50C - 50% / 60C - 60% / 70C - 70% / 80C - 80% / 90C-90% / 100C - 100%

Personally I'm aggresive and as temps go higher I'm raise the increments above that. Here is my set scale which keeps my card at 39-40C idle and now most I've seen full throttle after hours of heavy gaming is 80C.

Temp / Fan Speed
30C - 38%
40C - 50%
50C - 61%
70C - 82%
80C - 95%
88C - 100%

Good luck - enjoy your card and gaming with it. IF club members have or have had the GTX 570, it'd be nice if you can chime in with his voltage question.
     
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Not sure on voltage regarding a 570 but I'm sure your going to get advice real soon from 570 owners from this club.
I hope so, I look forward to talking with them as I plan on getting 2 more GTX 570's to join this one soon. Especially if I can get them for the same price which is very much possible as the person who I got it from (he bought it brand new and gave it to me for free (my favorite 4 letter F word) for fixing some computers) has said he will do it again soon. He didn't have the money to pay me cash but has a $4000 limit on his dell credit card so used it to buy me this.

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As for EVGA ( my favorite vendor ) you can download this updater that will not void your warranty that unlocks your fan speed as you see fit published by EVGA.

EVGA GTX 500 Series Fanspeed Unlockers .
My card is a PNY GTX 570 XLR8 Enthusiast Edition card. Can I still use the program or do I need to flash my card with a eVGA BIOS first for it to work?

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Hope you didn't download a beta version of Afterburner. I use Afterburner myself because EVGA Precision Software dosen't allow for voltage tweaks, though I hear last version does haven't tried it yet. Get the real version of MSI Afterburner 2.1.0.
What's wrong with the beta? Does version 2.1.0 allow me to change the voltages like the beta version does?


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Definetly want to do a manul settings on that. In MSI Afterburner it's ' Settings / FAN / Check 'Enable user defined software automatic fan control'.

You'll have six points and can add a seventh if you need to by right clicking on the screen. You can decide if you want ' step ' scales or ' curved ' scales by double clicking the screen.
Yeah, thanks for this info but I am familiar with Afterburner. I have been using it for over a year in my main build which is the one with 3X GTX 480's. My second i7 build is the one with the GTX 570 in it.

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Also make sure on the front of Afterburner you also check 'Apply overclocking at system start up ' so you don't have to think about it anylonger.
I don't check the little bubble (or whatever its supposed to be) until I have my overclock 100% stable because you can cause some serious problems doing that. If its not stable and you check it then your system can lock up and its a pain in the rear to fix.

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Some people set those points 1C-1% fan.

40C - 40% / 50C - 50% / 60C - 60% / 70C - 70% / 80C - 80% / 90C-90% / 100C - 100%

Personally I'm aggresive and as temps go higher I'm raise the increments above that. Here is my set scale which keeps my card at 39-40C idle and now most I've seen full throttle after hours of heavy gaming is 80C.

Temp / Fan Speed
30C - 38%
40C - 50%
50C - 61%
70C - 82%
80C - 95%
88C - 100%

Good luck - enjoy your card and gaming with it. IF club members have or have had the GTX 570, it'd be nice if you can chime in with his voltage question.
I go for an even more aggressive fan speed profile than you. Mine looks like this:

40c = 100%
50c = 100%
60c = 100%
70c = 100%
80c = 100%
90c = 100%

Lol, I have 2x 120 x 120 x 38mm 150 CFM 50+ Dbs Delta fans so my main rig with 3 GTX 480's at 100% fan speed is even more quiet than my second rig with the 2 Delta fans in push/pull w/ shrouds on my H70. I have them on a Lamptron FC5 V2 fan controller but since I am always folding on the 2 systems,I leave the fans at max.

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Nathan

Edit: Have you guys seen this card? What do you think of it? I think it's a smart idea but I wonder how well it works. they also have a version that incorporates a CPU water block with it. That doesn't seem like too good of an idea to me. Let's take a sub par H50, add a Thermal nuclear furnace worth of heat generation, then let's cool the cpu with the same fluid... Kind of a no brainer to me. Could you imagine the idle temps of a i7 with that? I mean if your running at full load with an overclocked Fermi then it's pumping somewhere in the area of 70-80c fluid to the CPU. It might be a good idea if it had a 240mm rad or a 360mm rad.
Edited by lawrencendlw - 7/11/11 at 12:54am
post #2790 of 5998
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My card is a PNY GTX 570 XLR8 Enthusiast Edition card. Can I still use the program or do I need to flash my card with a eVGA BIOS first for it to work?


What's wrong with the beta? Does version 2.1.0 allow me to change the voltages like the beta version does?


Yeah, thanks for this info but I am familiar with Afterburner. I have been using it for over a year in my main build which is the one with 3X GTX 480's. My second i7 build is the one with the GTX 570 in it.


I go for an even more aggressive fan speed profile than you. Mine looks like this:

40c = 100%
50c = 100%
60c = 100%
70c = 100%
80c = 100%
90c = 100%


Nathan
Whoops, saw your system specs and saw EVGA and thought that's what you owned. I wouldn't use the EVGA fan unlocker on the PNY card. Couldn't tell you which one would work.

I wouldn't use the MSI Afterburner beta version as it's always got bugs in them to be ironed out. Yes the final release above does allow for voltage tweaks now. Great utility.

And lastly, WOW that's one aggressive fan setting. I've never run a fan on a GPU at 100% all the time. I have a question for you.....does running the fan that hard 24/7 ok? Wouldn't it wear the fan out and shorten it's life expectancy? Do you do the same for your EVGA GTX 480? If so, what's your idle temp?
     
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