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post #3571 of 5998
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Originally Posted by golfergolfer;14727926 
wermad:
I have used that site and it says that the msi (non power srry for that) is reference...

Arizonian:
I think I will try that out...

Both:
Thanks so much for your help! I am not done yet but I may need some more help later.

doh.gif thought it was the III. Good find thumb.gif
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How about *snip* eek.gif

I think it cost the same as my three Zotacs 580 3gb biggrin.gif, I'm good thumb.gif
post #3572 of 5998
Still have to give Asus ROG props for the engineering that went into the MARS II. Yes it would have been better if it had 3Gb VRAM per GPU and yes it needs to be about half the price but that's the whole point of limited edition isn't it? You pay for the exclusivity.
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thanks bouf, +rep, how hot does it get now? because i don't really see temp problems, i mean i did furmark and got to 70 celsius but still that's far away from the max of what? 100 celsius. i mean the cooling is good on the card, i have it in a haf 932 so she gets plenty of air. did you read any specific steps to how to overclock the 580, can't seem to find any for myself.

EDIT::

can you please update me? i still have the 560 ti but in a different computer here is my new validation for my 580! thanks.
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/fexbh/
No i didn't really read up on it, I've had a few gpus and I just kinda try a little bit of everything until I find something that works. I've found that I haven't been able to OC the memory too much, could be do to the fact that it gets cooled by second hand air and it has no heatsink.

When i run the card at 900 core I'll see temps of 65-70 when gaming for a couple hours. But my 800D doesn't have the best air flow.

Can't wait to put this beast under water!! I'm adding a 480 rad to the loop just for the card and potentially another one (overkill for one card but thats how I like it :d)

Edit: another card, not 2 480 rads lol
Edited by Bouf0010 - 8/27/11 at 7:50am
post #3574 of 5998
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I might get in trouble for this but what is the best GTX 570 that I would be able to put underwater with a full cover block? I would like to be able to oc it and perhaps overvolt as well... could some one please help me?
EVGA with lifetime warranty i do have 2 under water with 2 koolance block's
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My opinion on the EVGA GTX 570HD 2.5GB for multiple monitors like your planning on getting is a very solid choice.

It's not the best over clocker as it dosen't have a high ceiling for over voltage which will get you higher over clocks.

If it's doing the job well with multiple monitors due to having higher VRAM and an over clock without over voltage then go for it.

If you were to stay on a single monitor then the extra VRAM wouldn't do anything for you as anything past 1.2GB is more than is needed in currrent games. Even the more intense graphics games.

Without any over volting and just taking the card to higher OC your not going to hurt it and won't end up with the VRM issue.

Under water your also going to keep temps down for your SLI and possible TRI_SLI set up.

It's up to you if you want a huge over clock that requires higher voltage to aquire it and keep it stable. Question is how much gain is that higher over clock really going to give you? To me it's marginal and the higher VRAM on multiple monitors will out weigh having a less over clock over a non-reference 1.2GB card that can over clock higher.

If I was going multiple monitors, having more VRAM would be higher priority than being able to squeeze 5%-10% over clock by over volting your card. That's just me.


PS - Join the EVGA forums and in the 500 Series section post your question. As everyone there is an EVGA owner and I know you'll find your answer there. Post your specs and your question with conerns.
@ golfergolfer - Arizonian nailed it, especially in the bold above.

I want to point out, though, that overclocking is never guaranteed. There are so many variables that come into play (how all the different components interact once put together, variability amongst parts, overclocking skills, etc.) that no one can ever guarantee you will be able to overclock even 1MHz past stock.

This is the key thing that I think a lot of the hype has people hypnotized. Even if you buy into a legendary lineage of cards that are known to overclock, there stands a chance (albeit small) that you might get a card that won't budge past stock clocks, or it may do slightly better than stock but only with a very high increase in voltage. And that company would not owe you anything since the card at least works at the label rated stock clock speeds.

But even if you could overclock a 570 to, let's say, 900MHz or beyond, the difference in performance is only a few frames per second, depending on the game. Whether if that is worth stressing over or not, is up for you to decide.

The bottom line is to never buy any computer part thinking that you are guaranteed performance that is above and beyond what you paid for; and even if you could overclock it, especially a GPU, do not expect it to perform like you overclocked one card to even be close to half the power of SLI (as most companies would like you to believe).

With that said, my suggestion for you is to stick with EVGA for a number of reasons, but most importantly because they have wonderful support and are pretty forgiving if you switch to watercooling. If you are sticking with a single monitor, go for a reference card that has the 1.2GB on it and slap a watercooling block on it:

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

If your goal is to eventually do Surround, and you have to stick with the 570 series (for whatever reason), your only real good choice would be the HD with 2.5GB of VRAM:

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

Luckily for you, EK is actually making a block for the EVGA HD series so you will be able to watercool this to your heart's content:

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...en-nickel.html
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...en-nickel.html

These cards are solid and will perform very well, even at stock clocks, so don't drive yourself insane by stressing over a minor detail as to how far these cards can overclock.
     
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@ golfergolfer - Arizonian nailed it, especially in the bold above.

I want to point out, though, that overclocking is never guaranteed. There are so many variables that come into play (how all the different components interact once put together, variability amongst parts, overclocking skills, etc.) that no one can ever guarantee you will be able to overclock even 1MHz past stock.

This is the key thing that I think a lot of the hype has people hypnotized. Even if you buy into a legendary lineage of cards that are known to overclock, there stands a chance (albeit small) that you might get a card that won't budge past stock clocks, or it may do slightly better than stock but only with a very high increase in voltage. And that company would not owe you anything since the card at least works at the label rated stock clock speeds.

But even if you could overclock a 570 to, let's say, 900MHz or beyond, the difference in performance is only a few frames per second, depending on the game. Whether if that is worth stressing over or not, is up for you to decide.

The bottom line is to never buy any computer part thinking that you are guaranteed performance that is above and beyond what you paid for; and even if you could overclock it, especially a GPU, do not expect it to perform like you overclocked one card to even be close to half the power of SLI (as most companies would like you to believe).

With that said, my suggestion for you is to stick with EVGA for a number of reasons, but most importantly because they have wonderful support and are pretty forgiving if you switch to watercooling. If you are sticking with a single monitor, go for a reference card that has the 1.2GB on it and slap a watercooling block on it:

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

If your goal is to eventually do Surround, and you have to stick with the 570 series (for whatever reason), your only real good choice would be the HD with 2.5GB of VRAM:

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInf...s%20Family&sw=

Luckily for you, EK is actually making a block for the EVGA HD series so you will be able to watercool this to your heart's content:

http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...en-nickel.html
http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek...en-nickel.html

These cards are solid and will perform very well, even at stock clocks, so don't drive yourself insane by stressing over a minor detail as to how far these cards can overclock.
Ok what happens if i didnt HAVE to stick with GTX 570s???? then what?
    
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Ok what happens if i didnt HAVE to stick with GTX 570s???? then what?
MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme with 3Gb of VRAM, SLI that and you'll have a damn potent 3d surround rig.
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MSI GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme with 3Gb of VRAM, SLI that and you'll have a damn potent 3d surround rig.
Pretty much this.

Any of the 3GB GTX 580's will be excellent choices, but they will cost you a lot more. However, when it comes to Surround (and especially 3D Surround) you will need every last bit of performance that you can muster.
     
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Ok what happens if i didnt HAVE to stick with GTX 570s???? then what?
If going multiple monitors any GTX 580 3GB video card, reference or non-reference, niether have any problems and both type over clock well. No VRM issue with reference GTX 580's.

If your going single monitor any GTX 580 1.5Gb is more than enough as having more VRAM on single 1920x1080p monitor isn't gonig to improve FPS/performance. Even if going 3D vision having more VRAM past 1.5Gb isn't going to help FPS/performance on single monitor.

Now as to which 580 will depend on you and your budget. You really can't pick a poor / worse GTX 580 as they are all solid cards and your going to be happy.

The only difference is choose 3Gb version for multiple monitors and 1.5Gb for single monitor is plenty.
     
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The cover does make the 580 look way better. I want to buy the Hydro block but it's so expensive compare to other block. I like it the most though.
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