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post #4931 of 5998
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Ok club members, the new GPU-Z 0.5.8 has now a ASIC quality rating designed for NVIDIA Fermi based GPU's on the electrical leakages the chips produce (to increase yield by allotting them in different SKUs and performance bins), where the quality can be quantified and displayed.

Open up GPU-Z and right click the upper left hand corner on the GPU-Z icon. On the drop down box you will notice the 'ASIC' option.

It will display the ASIC quality of your chip that handles voltage electrical leakage the chips produce. The higher percentage the less voltage leakage. It's a new reading. From what results I've seen though still doesn't mean lower ASIC quality means less over clock ability and vice versa.

Here's my screen shot: of mine showing ASCI 86.9% which is darn pretty good. Highest clock through 3DMark11 and BF3 game play reached 950Mhz (see first page for 'proof') at 74C highest temp.

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Didn't know if anyone else spotted this and thought I'd bring the attention to club members. Hasn't been confirmed that higher ASIC allows for higher over clocks.

Hmm I never heard of this. One of my 460's got 55.8% redface.gif The other got like 88%. Not sure what this really means if anything. Is this going to be a new thing people use to rate cards?
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Hmm I never heard of this. One of my 460's got 55.8% redface.gif The other got like 88%. Not sure what this really means if anything. Is this going to be a new thing people use to rate cards?

Well I've seen that it boils down to little. Some poor voltage leaks still over clock as high or higher than the better quality ASIC cards. So I doubt it relates to real world over clocking capability as it suggests it should.

May give an idea why some cards require higher voltages to reach same OC as other cards, based on their voltage leaks (ASIC qaulity). Does not mean that a great ASIC card can actually achieve any higher voltages past GPU specs anyway. The voltage ceiling has kind of been the same through any series.

Make sense?

Now for the newer 28nm chips that don't respond well to voltage bumps to achieve higher OC as we're discovering this might be a good gauge in GPU quality and may translate to what kind of over clock-ability one can squeeze out of their cards. But I'm not going to get off topic on a club thread of 48nm chips. As for us the previous pertains more true.
     
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One of my lightning is 71.7% and the other one is 61.1%. None of them can do more than 950mhz without pushing the voltage past 1.150v frown.gif
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Well I've seen that it boils down to little. Some poor voltage leaks still over clock as high or higher than the better quality ASIC cards. So I doubt it relates to real world over clocking capability as it suggests it should.
May give an idea why some cards require higher voltages to reach same OC as other cards, based on their voltage leaks (ASIC qaulity). Does not mean that a great ASIC card can actually achieve any higher voltages past GPU specs anyway. The voltage ceiling has kind of been the same through any series.
Make sense?
Now for the newer 28nm chips that don't respond well to voltage bumps to achieve higher OC as we're discovering this might be a good gauge in GPU quality and may translate to what kind of over clock-ability one can squeeze out of their cards. But I'm not going to get off topic on a club thread of 48nm chips. As for us the previous pertains more true.

It's very interesting at the very least. I have 1 580 that oc'd really high I will check that out in a bit and report back.

I'm interested in what you were talking about with the 28nm chips. Where can I read about that?
 
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checked mine as well:

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It's very interesting at the very least. I have 1 580 that oc'd really high I will check that out in a bit and report back.
I'm interested in what you were talking about with the 28nm chips. Where can I read about that?

I've been following the 7950/7970 Owners Club thread since day one as I learn and do my homework about the cards. It seems to be the consensus with most owners. They get great over clocks on air alone (each card varies) and up to 200Mhz OC highest I've seen. They've hit the 1250Mhz in 3DMark11 but in intense DX11 games, artifact. The highest in real world gaming was 1200Mhz stable. Over volting didn't give those at 1200Mhz any boost as it doesn't respond well to over volting to achieve higher over clocks past it ending in same results it seems. Even under water the cards increase has been 50Mhz thus far. Not many under water just yet but that also seems to be the consensus from the ones that have. Turning out even under water not enough performance gains to justify the cost other than having a quieter card.
     
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I've been following the 7950/7970 Owners Club thread since day one as I learn and do my homework about the cards. It seems to be the consensus with most owners. They get great over clocks on air alone (each card varies) and up to 200Mhz OC highest I've seen. They've hit the 1250Mhz in 3DMark11 but in intense DX11 games, artifact. The highest in real world gaming was 1200Mhz stable. Over volting didn't give those at 1200Mhz any boost as it doesn't respond well to over volting to achieve higher over clocks past it ending in same results it seems. Even under water the cards increase has been 50Mhz thus far. Not many under water just yet but that also seems to be the consensus from the ones that have. Turning out even under water not enough performance gains to justify the cost other than having a quieter card.

Hmm that's sort of disconcerting. I hope that isn't the trend with all 28nm chips. Also I hope it isn't something that continues with further die shrinks. In other words I hope that it is not a problem with the electrical properties of the silicone and circuits that is resulting in Voltage past a certain point having a null effect on stability. If that is the case I could see the end of our little hobby here....sad-smiley-002.gif

Also I got a %72.0 and %72.9 ASIC

And one of those cards got this:

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Hmm I never heard of this. One of my 460's got 55.8% redface.gif The other got like 88%. Not sure what this really means if anything. Is this going to be a new thing people use to rate cards?

Well I've seen that it boils down to little. Some poor voltage leaks still over clock as high or higher than the better quality ASIC cards. So I doubt it relates to real world over clocking capability as it suggests it should.

May give an idea why some cards require higher voltages to reach same OC as other cards, based on their voltage leaks (ASIC qaulity). Does not mean that a great ASIC card can actually achieve any higher voltages past GPU specs anyway. The voltage ceiling has kind of been the same through any series.

Make sense?

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Interesting. And this is a club for 500 owners to discuss all sorts of things. I think this topic is perfectly fine.
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Well I've seen that it boils down to little. Some poor voltage leaks still over clock as high or higher than the better quality ASIC cards. So I doubt it relates to real world over clocking capability as it suggests it should.

This is what the guy on Page 3 suggested also.. it's also 'weird' that there are cards over 100%. Anyhow, my Lightning shows 85.1% while the CUII shows 77.4%, the CUII has clocked 1Ghz but I haven't been able to get Lightning there (yet at least).
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This is the result ASIC of my card, Gigabyte SOC (GV-N570SO-13I)

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Below, SOC Gigabyte (GV-N570SO-13I) @ 1010

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