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another alternitave would be a 1156 xeon.

like the X3430 (i5 750 clone), or X3440 (i7 860 clone)

they tend to overclock a bit better than the core I counterparts.

or you could just go with a certain i5 650
HAHA Nothing like pushing it.
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Haha! I truly am considering it man.

I honestly don't know what Xeon is. Gonna look it up now.

EDIT: I'm an idiot. It's just the previous generation. Right?



Then maybe I should take note and get that i5-655k? Is it the fastest for that setup then?
Xeon's are the same as the CoreI ones, but they are marketed towards servers. But nothing is stopping you from using one
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The i5-655k is one of the faster ones at 3.2ghz. There are the 670 at 3.46 ghz and the 680 at 3.6ghz but i don't need to spend an extra $100 bucks when the 655k is unlocked and can probably fly passed the 670/680 when you get around to overclocking.

Edit: The 655k doesn't come with a cooler so you have to buy one. No biggie I was getting a h50/h70 anyways.
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Most games aren't programmed for 4 threads yet.
The newest games and most definitely future games will

Also, why have only one hard drive? Why not an ssd?
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HAHA Nothing like pushing it.


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Xeon's are the same as the CoreI ones, but they are marketed towards servers. But nothing is stopping you from using one
I didn't know that. Crazy how much I can research and still never know. I guess a quad core is pointless for me right now. I'd like just a really fast dual core.

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The i5-655k is one of the faster ones at 3.2ghz. There are the 670 at 3.46 ghz and the 680 at 3.6ghz but i don't need to spend an extra $100 bucks when the 655k is unlocked and can probably fly passed the 670/680 when you get around to overclocking.

Edit: The 655k doesn't come with a cooler so you have to buy one. No biggie I was getting a h50/h70 anyways.
What's the differences between the 650 and 655k? What should I be aware of?

I don't want to put out reflex99 here... but I see an i5-650 for $155 on eBay new and an i5-655k for $200. Is the price difference worth it?

And same here. I want to get an H50, H60, or H70.

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The newest games and most definitely future games will

Also, why have only one hard drive? Why not an ssd?
Agreed. I'm not a huge gamer though, just a few Blizzard games is all. I'll probably upgrade by the time I would need four cores.

As far as the hard drives, that's another thing I need to change. I want to have two drives to dual boot. And keep different partitions on different drives. And as far as SSD... this is a budget build. I'm already pushing it as it is. I don't have the money to drop on SSD right now. Not worth it to me at the moment.
Edited by zionic - 1/7/11 at 11:45pm
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I didn't know that. Crazy how much I can research and still never know. I guess a quad core is pointless for me right now. I'd like just a really fast dual core.



What's the differences between the 650 and 655k? What should I be aware of?

I don't want to put out reflex99 here... but I see an i5-650 for $155 on eBay new and an i5-655k for $200. Is the price difference worth it?

And same here. I want to get an H50, H60, or H70.



Agreed. I'm not a huge gamer though, just a few Blizzard games is all. I'll probably upgrade by the time I would need four cores.

As far as the hard drives, that's another thing I need to change. I want to have two drives to dual boot. And keep different partitions on different drives. And as far as SSD... this is a budget build. I'm already pushing it as it is. I don't have the money to drop on SSD right now. Not worth it to me at the moment.
the 655 has an unlocked multi, which helps if you are really lazy and want to OC, or you are trying to break world records.
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The 650 has a locked multiplier which mean as you start to raise the speed of you system you other components with run faster and some things only like to run so fast before you start to get errors and crashing or overheating and all other sorts of bad things. with the 655k the multiplier is unlocked so you can change to a higher or lower number so you can keep the components in your systems running in there happy zones why blazing the hell out of you cpu. In short it helps to overclock your cpu with out having overclock everything as far. I'm not sure how the i core series over clocks as I am still on a socket 775 board where the north bridge controls everything and in the i core series the equivalent to the north bridge is now on the chip instead of the board. I intend to learn with my new build but its suppose to be very similar. Search around the Intel threads. There is bound to be a thread explaining how to overclock the I series. I'll see if I can't dig up something real quick.
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the 655 has an unlocked multi, which helps if you are really lazy and want to OC, or you are trying to break world records.
Okay. Thanks! Not trying to do any of that (world record breaking LOL). CPU decision is still up in the air.

Updated OP with everything but the CPU. Changed a few things... including the two hard drives. I've been wanting to get two 750gb Caviar Greens because they're quiet.

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The 650 has a locked multiplier which mean as you start to raise the speed of you system you other components with run faster and some things only like to run so fast before you start to get errors and crashing or overheating and all other sorts of bad things. with the 655k the multiplier is unlocked so you can change to a higher or lower number so you can keep the components in your systems running in there happy zones why blazing the hell out of you cpu. In short it helps to overclock your cpu with out having overclock everything as far. I'm not sure how the i core series over clocks as I am still on a socket 775 board where the north bridge controls everything and in the i core series the equivalent to the north bridge is now on the chip instead of the board. I intend to learn with my new build but its suppose to be very similar. Search around the Intel threads. There is bound to be a thread explaining how to overclock the I series. I'll see if I can't dig up something real quick.
Okay. Thanks man. And again... I may or may not overclock it. I certainly don't need to for any reason, but would certainly want to just for fun.
Edited by zionic - 1/7/11 at 11:55pm
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post #69 of 179
Well you can always overclock the 650. you just might run into limitations from other hardware. But if you aren't planning on going real far and just want to learn the basics then there is no need to get an unlock cpu.
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Yeah, the i5-650 seems to be my best answer. Anything higher than that jumps in price. And I certainly don't need 750. But I don't want to go down to i3 either. Thanks for all the help guys.
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