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Ugh, are you serious people..I will just copy and paste...

I am sorry sir, but you could not be more wrong. Yes, the sequential speeds on the sandforce drives are faster, but that is a pointless measurement when you will rarely use sequential speeds. People who buy SSDs do not use these specific read/writes often at all.

What counts when picking out a SSD is the 4k read/writes and that is where the C300 is superior than the sandforce. The 4k speeds are the actual read/writes that people will use on an almost minute basis with their SSDs unlike sequential read/writes which they will use far less often.

The 4k speeds for any drive do not exceed Sata3G speeds and therefor it is not needed to use a Sata6G interface with the C300. Yes, the C300 will get to Sata6g speeds, but that is only for sequential reads which I mentioned earlier that users do not use sequential read/writes even close to the amount of 4k writes which are far more used and far more important.

To be honest, there isn't really a terrific SATA6G controller and in most cases the 4k speeds are slower when using a Sata6G interface/controller simply because none have been well written/coded etc. So while the Sata6G is nice it is not needed to have at all to get the benefit of the C300 over the sandforce drives. It is just a bonus.

There are hard drives out there that have a read/write speed over 100MB/s and we are talking about SSDs having read/write speed of around 300MB/s. Okay, cool 3 times as fast. These are all sequential speeds mind you.

When it really gets fun is when you are talking about the random 4k speeds and what actually counts since you use those far more often. A hard drive might reach 1MB/s read/write, but on the other hand the sandforce reaches 20-25MB/s and the C300 reaches 28-3XMB/s. Now, that is around 30 times faster than the traditional hard drive. While the C300 is just 5 or so MB/s faster than the sandforce you have got to remember that this is being done many, many times over and over.

This is why the C300 and in general SSDs are faster than hard drives among other things such as IOPS and access time, but to wrap it all up the C300 is faster where it counts and that is the 4k read/writes.

I would rather have a SSD that is slower on sequential speeds that I don't use and be faster than 4k which is something that I will use all the time. We can even go into more detail about how sandforce compresses data and how it slows it down drastically, but I wont get into that for the time being.

I may sound mad, that is not the case. I am just annoyed by people giving wrong info. While your intention was good I was just trying to inform the OP as well as anyone else who reads this.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by maximus20895 View Post
I am sorry sir, but you could not be more wrong. Yes, the sequential speeds on the sandforce drives are faster, but that is a pointless measurement when you will rarely use sequential speeds. People who buy SSDs do not use these specific read/writes often at all.

What counts when picking out a SSD is the 4k read/writes and that is where the C300 is superior than the sandforce. The 4k speeds are the actual read/writes that people will use on an almost minute basis with their SSDs unlike sequential read/writes which they will use far less often.

The 4k speeds for any drive do not exceed Sata3G speeds and therefor it is not needed to use a Sata6G interface with the C300. Yes, the C300 will get to Sata6g speeds, but that is only for sequential reads which I mentioned earlier that users do not use sequential read/writes even close to the amount of 4k writes which are far more used and far more important.

To be honest, there isn't really a terrific SATA6G controller and in most cases the 4k speeds are slower when using a Sata6G interface/controller simply because none have been well written/coded etc. So while the Sata6G is nice it is not needed to have at all to get the benefit of the C300 over the sandforce drives. It is just a bonus.

There are hard drives out there that have a read/write speed over 100MB/s and we are talking about SSDs having read/write speed of around 300MB/s. Okay, cool 3 times as fast. These are all sequential speeds mind you.

When it really gets fun is when you are talking about the random 4k speeds and what actually counts since you use those far more often. A hard drive might reach 1MB/s read/write, but on the other hand the sandforce reaches 20-25MB/s and the C300 reaches 28-3XMB/s. Now, that is around 30 times faster than the traditional hard drive. While the C300 is just 5 or so MB/s faster than the sandforce you have got to remember that this is being done many, many times over and over.

This is why the C300 and in general SSDs are faster than hard drives among other things such as IOPS and access time, but to wrap it all up the C300 is faster where it counts and that is the 4k read/writes.

I would rather have a SSD that is slower on sequential speeds that I don't use and be faster than 4k which is something that I will use all the time. We can even go into more detail about how sandforce compresses data and how it slows it down drastically, but I wont get into that for the time being.

I may sound mad, that is not the case. I am just annoyed by people giving wrong info. While your intention was good I was just trying to inform the OP as well as anyone else who reads this.

Thanks
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Haha thanks. I hope I didn't sound angry even though it is getting frustrating since it's the same thing over and over. I guess it's not totally the consumers fault since the advertisers are a bit misleading. I hope I helped out at least some people though
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Haha thanks. I hope I didn't sound angry even though it is getting frustrating since it's the same thing over and over. I guess it's not totally the consumers fault since the advertisers are a bit misleading. I hope I helped out at least some people though
I'm sure many here know where you're coming from.

It gets frustrating saying the same thing over and over but at the same time it's frustrating to not correct some of the misinformation floating around.
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A-DATA 64GB S599. I got mine for $109.99.
    
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A-DATA 64GB S599. I got mine for $109.99.
an excellent deal, and also available under the Micro Center brand for $99

buyers note; it's 64GiB of NAND they're advertising, but only 60GB (55.6GiB) available disk space, like all other Sandforce drives.
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