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Originally Posted by WhiteCrane;11692895 
Since its a game console, Sony should have invested money into higher speed HDD's, instead of BRD.

I think the HDD was pretty fast for 2006. They could probably have refreshed it when the slim was realased though.

99% of users wouldn't have understood why it was £60 more expensive for a small hard drive. Despite being twice as fast.
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Originally Posted by FallenFaux;11691685 
Biggest I've seen so far are MMOs. My current WoW install (post cata) is 28.3Gb and I seem to remember AoC being around 26Gb when it came out, so it's probably past the 30Gb mark now.


Honestly though, the price of the SSD doesn't seem to be worth the gains in loading, especially if you're playing online and have to wait for other players anyway.

I'm suprised WoW is only 28GB with all the expansions they've done. GTA4 + DLC was 30GB unmodded when it was installed.
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Cool but what about TRIM?

TRIM is and will be the biggest brain damage that SSD brings to the table. It seems to me that an intelligent controller for an SSD should entirely handle such things without requiring special utilities or certain versions of OSes. I think it would be a fairly easy thing to accomplish, and would open SSDs to a wide array of applications, in data acquisition systems, and specialized instruments or machine controllers - all of which SSDs will fail because of TRIM.

And this is a very real problem with consoles, because without TRIM, one can not upgrade a retro machine, and any new machine would entirely have to support it.
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Originally Posted by MAD_J;11683816 
Cool but what about TRIM?
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Originally Posted by dham;11684006 
TRIM not needed as much in newer SSD's. Not having it want kill your performance. There are some benches that show this. Can't find the link right now.

Not true, SSDs have their own garbage collection when left idle. TRIM just plays a more active role.
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Originally Posted by AzO;11694444 
Not true, SSDs have their own garbage collection when left idle. TRIM just plays a more active role.

Took me about a week to figure this out after getting my first SSD. Everyone makes garbage collection seem like such a awful thing.

Back on topic:

I was hoping that he'd do a more in depth review beyond loading the game to the harddrive. Does it make a huge difference with in-game loading times? I read review somewhere that said it only made a difference with games acquired through the PSN and the initial load time to the hdd.
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post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by dham;11684006 
TRIM not needed as much in newer SSD's. Not having it want kill your performance. There are some benches that show this. Can't find the link right now.
It depends if Sony will add SSD/TRIM support in the coming firmware updates. However, I don't think TRIM is all that necessary for the PS3. TRIM is a necessity if you're using your SSD as an operating system disk or something like that. Of course, having TRIM enabled on the PS3 won't hurt the SSD disks but it's not like you constantly write and delete data on your PS3.
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how is this news? lets make a thread every time someone tries a different game (sarcasm)
    
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TRIM is and will be the biggest brain damage that SSD brings to the table. It seems to me that an intelligent controller for an SSD should entirely handle such things without requiring special utilities or certain versions of OSes. I think it would be a fairly easy thing to accomplish, and would open SSDs to a wide array of applications, in data acquisition systems, and specialized instruments or machine controllers - all of which SSDs will fail because of TRIM.

And this is a very real problem with consoles, because without TRIM, one can not upgrade a retro machine, and any new machine would entirely have to support it.

Because defragmentation caused huge issues for HDDs breaking into the mainstream.
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It depends if Sony will add SSD/TRIM support in the coming firmware updates. However, I don't think TRIM is all that necessary for the PS3. TRIM is a necessity if you're using your SSD as an operating system disk or something like that. Of course, having TRIM enabled on the PS3 won't hurt the SSD disks but it's not like you constantly write and delete data on your PS3.

This, unless you're regularly deleting files off the PS3, it's going to not really suffer much from the effects of not having TRIM.
    
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how is this news? lets make a thread every time someone tries a different game (sarcasm)

agreed. This is old hat.
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