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In addition to my complaints about build quality (http://www.overclock.net/nvidia-cooling/885248-opinions-zalman-vf3000-vs-icy-vision.html#post11597930), I am finding this cooler woefully inadequate for cooling a GTX 480 that has been over-volted.

Initially, and under modest loads and cool ambients, this cooler seemed great (after fixing the fins and lapping it anyway). However, now that I have my system in a warmer area and have been doing some proper stress testing, it's becoming quite apparent that this cooler has neither the heatpipe volume, nor surface area, to remove the heat generated by an over-volted GF100.

At anything past 1.038v and 800MHz core, at above 75F ambients, my VF3000F is inferior to the stock GTX480 cooler. It hits a wall at a certain power level (around 100A) and temps just keep on rising.

I am pissed. I have essentially spent 70 dollars on a memory/VRM cooling plate (the sole component that works well).

I suppose it will work well on one of my lower powered cards, but it looks like I'll need to pick up an Accelero if I want to do any real OCing on my 480 without going water.
Edited by Blameless - 12/17/10 at 10:13pm
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Best option is to sell it and pick up the AXP really. Room not an issue? Grab the biggest cooler available biggrin.gif
 
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I suggest the MK-13 if you want a truly awesome vga cooler.
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Originally Posted by theonedub;11688498 
Best option is to sell it and pick up the AXP really. Room not an issue? Grab the biggest cooler available biggrin.gif

The Accelero Xtreme Plus is also what I was thinking, but ideally, I'd want to find a cooler that is compatible with this Zalman VRM/RAM cooling plate.

However, if I can find someone to buy the Zalman outright, the Accelero will likely be my next air cooler.
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I suggest the MK-13 if you want a truly awesome vga cooler.

I looked at the MK-13 a while ago, and I don't think I'll have enough room if I want to mount decent fans to it, and at ~1.1v, ~870MHz core, this thing is going to need airflow.
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Well, I'm going to have to say, its user error or yours is a dud. With it in my FT02 with 2 FM181 fans (one,being the one underneath the CPU is dead), my GTX 480 never goes over 81c in Furmark with this cooler at 1.138v, the max voltage I can put it at. At 840 MHz on the core and 1.038, my GTX 480 tops out at 71c in Furmark. Note that my house is nice and warm at 74f, and my case likely cools worse than your at the moment.

For a reference, my friend who owns a RV02 with AP181 fans and a stock GTX 480 tops out at 89c at 1.038v (forget core clock).
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The Accelero Xtreme Plus is also what I was thinking, but ideally, I'd want to find a cooler that is compatible with this Zalman VRM/RAM cooling plate.

However, if I can find someone to buy the Zalman outright, the Accelero will likely be my next air cooler.



I looked at the MK-13 a while ago, and I don't think I'll have enough room if I want to mount decent fans to it, and at ~1.1v, ~870MHz core, this thing is going to need airflow.

That cooling plate should work with the AXP. Is there something in specific you are concerned with. How much taller is that plate than the stock plate?
 
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Well, I'm going to have to say, its user error or yours is a dud. With it in my FT02 with 2 FM181 fans (one,being the one underneath the CPU is dead), my GTX 480 never goes over 81c in Furmark with this cooler at 1.138v, the max voltage I can put it at. At 840 MHz on the core and 1.038, my GTX 480 tops out at 71c in Furmark. Note that my house is nice and warm at 74f, and my case likely cools worse than your at the moment.

For a reference, my friend who owns a RV02 with AP181 fans and a stock GTX 480 tops out at 89c at 1.038v (forget core clock).

The cooler is mounted correctly and contact is better than it was stock (base was very wavy initially. I'll try re-seating it yet again to rule out any possibility of user error, but given how low the idle temps are, and how well it cools at lower voltages, I don't see what could possibly be wrong with the mounting.

Ambient temp in the room I do my testing is ~90F. I always test for worst case scenarios, and if my AC fails when I'm not home, it can easily reach 100F in my room.

Temps start out low climb slowly, then around 70-75C they skyrocket, and don't start leveling off until the mid-upper 90s C, and by then the card is unstable at any clock speed I'd want the cooler for.
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That cooling plate should work with the AXP. Is there something in specific you are concerned with. How much taller is that plate than the stock plate?

It's quite a bit taller than the stock plate. Probably twice as high in some places.
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After taking another look at the MK-13 I think I'll grab one, use it with the stock vrm/memory plate, and glue a pair of 92mm Panaflo high speeds to the top.
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1x Crucial BLT4G3D1608ET3LX0 @ 2000, 10-11-11-3... OCZ (Toshiba) Trion 150 120GB Hyundai Sapphire 120GB 3x Hitachi Deskstar 7k1000.C 1TB 
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Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1 Antec TP-750 Fractal Design R5 
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ASUS Xonar DS 
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i7-6800K @ 4.3/3.5GHz core/uncore, 1.36/1.2v ASRock X99 OC Formula (P3.10) GTX 780 (temporary) 4x4GiB Crucial DDR4-2400 @ 11-13-12-28-T2, 1.33v 
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Intel 600p 256GB NVMe 2x HGST Travelstar 7k1000 1TB Corsair H55 (temporary) Windows Server 2016 Datacenter 
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Seasonic SS-860XP2 Corsair Carbide Air 540 
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good decision.
post #10 of 21
Really impressed what they have dont with GTX580. 1.138v under 75C with stock cooler.
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Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
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SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit LG OLED55C7P  Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
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Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
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OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
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EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
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NZXT Switch 810  
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Ishimura
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit LG OLED55C7P  Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
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NZXT Switch 810  
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