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Hi guys

I was just wondering since I know that some guys have this kit;

http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Produc...82E16820220464

if it would do some like 7-8-7 1600 MHz???

I know some guys have this kit, and may share an opinion about them..


thanks guys
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post #2 of 8
They might do 7-8-7.

Somebody might chime in that knows what IC's are on those sticks.

It's worth a shot to try anyway though. You wont damage them if you dont overvolt them. See how far you can go at their rated voltage.

If you get brave, you can start bumping voltage. Small increments. Like, from 1.650 to 1.675, or whatever your board offers. I'd be comfortable up to ~1.7 myself, depends on how they behaved.
    
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yeah, I know I can overclock them in some way either speed or timings

but I always liked to have some background info about a determinate piece of hardware, you know, just to keep some tips in mind about it
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Hi

I have almost similar ram to those, the only diff is the timings, they are rated at 8 8 8 26 at 2000mhz

They do 7 7 7 21 at 1700mhz no problem with 1055t and m4a89td, but i need 1.725 volts to get them stable, you might need to play with the sub timings, you need to experiment, It took alot of experimentation with trying different settings.

Best bet would be getting something made for amd, if your not into tweaking and fiddling around with bios settings etc.
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Hi

I have almost similar ram to those, the only diff is the timings, they are rated at 8 8 8 26 at 2000mhz

They do 7 7 7 21 at 1700mhz no problem with 1055t and m4a89td, but i need 1.725 volts to get them stable, you might need to play with the sub timings, you need to experiment, It took alot of experimentation with trying different settings.

Best bet would be getting something made for amd, if your not into tweaking and fiddling around with bios settings etc.
Seems like Elpida BBSE to me.

A lot of things "made for AMD" are just the same "not-made-for-AMD (but will work anyway)" material, rebranded and with different heatspreaders. RAM is RAM; a lot of the compatibility hub-bub is marketing scam.
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Seems like Elpida BBSE to me.

A lot of things "made for AMD" are just the same "not-made-for-AMD (but will work anyway)" material, rebranded and with different heatspreaders. RAM is RAM; a lot of the compatibility hub-bub is marketing scam.
Yes i agree, But most of the intel spec ram are tested with higher latency, and most amd board dont even support half the commands intel does, Hence its not easy to get 2000 C9 intel rated chips stable on a board, I have tried G.skill trident and now i have these patriot sticks, its been a nightmare trying to get them stable past 1800mhz, Maybe its just me, But i think im going to post up a thread asking for some help .
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post #7 of 8
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well the're doing 1600 7-9-7 with the rated voltage that is 1.65v


and hmmm is not like is not supported in a AMD motherboard, actually those ram I mentioned "are" for intel setups


is more like, 2000 MHZ is too much stress for the AMD CPU-NB, you could get them stable but maybe not

and like in Intel, if you surpass the 1.65v for the ram, it will kill the CPU (in some cpu of course)
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post #8 of 8
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Originally Posted by OptimusSwine View Post
Yes i agree, But most of the intel spec ram are tested with higher latency, and most amd board dont even support half the commands intel does, Hence its not easy to get 2000 C9 intel rated chips stable on a board, I have tried G.skill trident and now i have these patriot sticks, its been a nightmare trying to get them stable past 1800mhz, Maybe its just me, But i think im going to post up a thread asking for some help .
Since when? I find this to be more of a bacwkwards thing (Intel kits being more often tested with lower latency and AMD kits being more often tested with higher latency), hence it is more a marketing scam.

My UD4P definitely doesn't have as much RAM options; other boards probably do, but it probably really doesn't matter. The only RAM settings you will need are the CL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, tRC, tRFC, Command Rate, DRAM Voltage and CPU-NB voltage and on most AMD boards those are available.

1055T IMC's are now more often not as well-binned as 1090T IMC's; perhaps yours doesn't want to push more than 1800Mhz or your kit of RAM is not as compatible. Perhaps you should stop where you are, and lower timings. I don't find 2000 CAS9 to be worth it anyway, it's harder to stabilize and 1600 CAS6-7 will equal or exceed it in performance.
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