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The iPhone 4 is far from a midrange phone, I don't even get how you can conclude that. It's screen has a sick resolution of 640 x 960 pixels, at 3.5 inches.

That alone beats each phone you posted.

Not only that, it features a 1 GHz processor and 512mb of RAM. Hardware alone, it is on par with each phone you listed, apart from having a much better screen resolution.
Its only 800MHz, and the GPU is slower than the one found in Hummingbird processors, which I'd say puts it roughly on par with the second gen Snapdragon and slightly ahead of the OMAP 3620.



Looking at this image you'd think that the iPhone 4 is a fast phone, but notice how most of the Android phones are running 2.1 at that time. Look at the difference between the EVO 4G running 2.2 and 2.1. Its running the same hardware as the Nexus One (although its hindered by Sense)

The Incredible is almost identical to the Nexus One, and the Droid X should be slightly behind the Droid 2, and on par with the Droid. The Dell Streak is using the same hardware as the Nexus One, so when it finally gets 2.2+ it will be faster as well.

That means that the only phone on that list that the iPhone 4 is actually faster than is the Blackberry. Congratulations.

But of course, it doesn't stop there. This is Overclock.net after all, and all of the aforementioned easily overclock into the 1.3GHz+ range, furthering the gap.


And as far as the screen goes, it doesn't beat it. The extra resolution means nothing if you can't see the pixels at your normal viewing distance. If I have to hold the phones 0.5" from my face to tell the difference is it really an advantage? For the larger screens... well they are larger screens. Even if the resolution is noticeably different you're getting a larger screen, something the iPhone doesn't have.
    
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Not trying to sound like a fanboy but I recently went to AT&T and never had any of their phones except my current: the iPhone 4. I honestly like it a lot.
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iphones arn't really worth the price, but if your gona stick with att its prob the best smartphone they have.

if i was u i would change over to verison or such, and get a better phone with better service. im droping att as soon as our contract is up next year
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iphones arn't really worth the price, but if your gona stick with att its prob the best smartphone they have.

if i was u i would change over to verison or such, and get a better phone with better service. im droping att as soon as our contract is up next year
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I just ran the SunSpider benchmark on my epic 4g with 2.2 and my result was 5961.3ms +/- 4.4%.

2.2 does make a huge difference. I wonder what performance increase 2.3 will bring. I've been told that it will bring hardware acceleration which might improve these results even more.

Still, in my opinion the iphone is the best choice on At&t. Overall I think the iphone has more support.
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Its only 800MHz, and the GPU is slower than the one found in Hummingbird processors, which I'd say puts it roughly on par with the second gen Snapdragon and slightly ahead of the OMAP 3620.



Looking at this image you'd think that the iPhone 4 is a fast phone, but notice how most of the Android phones are running 2.1 at that time. Look at the difference between the EVO 4G running 2.2 and 2.1. Its running the same hardware as the Nexus One (although its hindered by Sense)

The Incredible is almost identical to the Nexus One, and the Droid X should be slightly behind the Droid 2, and on par with the Droid. The Dell Streak is using the same hardware as the Nexus One, so when it finally gets 2.2+ it will be faster as well.

That means that the only phone on that list that the iPhone 4 is actually faster than is the Blackberry. Congratulations.

But of course, it doesn't stop there. This is Overclock.net after all, and all of the aforementioned easily overclock into the 1.3GHz+ range, furthering the gap.


And as far as the screen goes, it doesn't beat it. The extra resolution means nothing if you can't see the pixels at your normal viewing distance. If I have to hold the phones 0.5" from my face to tell the difference is it really an advantage? For the larger screens... well they are larger screens. Even if the resolution is noticeably different you're getting a larger screen, something the iPhone doesn't have.
Meh, whatever, it's still the better phone IMO.

"The screen resolution means nothing"... Bahahaha, you just lost all credibility! >_>

Also, I don't want an iPad in my pocket, the iPhone screen is fine the size it is. ^_~

It really boils down to features, which is what makes the iPhone so great. And better.
Edited by Miki - 12/18/10 at 11:17pm
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Meh, whatever, it's still the better phone. Unless you can link me to a more popular phone.

"The screen resolution means nothing"... Bahahaha, you just lost all credibility! >_>

Also, I don't want an iPad in my pocket, the iPhone screen is fine the size it is. ^_~

It really boils down to features, which is what makes the iPhone so great. And better.

Seriously? Have you actually compared the phones side by side? I've actually taken my Desire and compared it directly to the iPhone 4. The extra resolution makes no difference at all.

The only difference is that my Desire does a hell of a lot more.

You praise the iPhone's features, but fail to mention any of them. I want you to give me ONE example of something you think the iPhone does that Android can't.

While you try and come up with something here are a few things that Android does has that the iPhone doesn't:

-expandable storage
-ability to function as a disk drive
-ability to copy music directly to the device without needing a program
-ability to copy music directly off the device, preserving filenames and file structure
-flash
-multiple web browsers running *different* engines (not just webkit like iOS, but also firefox and opera)
-multiple, interchangeable home screen apps (Launcher, Launcher Pro, MIUI, Sense, TouchWiz etc...)
-multiple different keyboards (swype, htc ime, betterkeyboard, etc...)
-ability to install non-market apps directly off of the sd card without any kind of root/jailbreak
-custom, tweaked roms
-ability to completely replace pretty much any component of the operating system
-widgets and moveable icons
-physical buttons
    
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Seriously? Have you actually compared the phones side by side? I've actually taken my Desire and compared it directly to the iPhone 4. The extra resolution makes no difference at all.

The only difference is that my Desire does a hell of a lot more.

You praise the iPhone's features, but fail to mention any of them. I want you to give me ONE example of something you think the iPhone does that Android can't.

While you try and come up with something here are a few things that Android does has that the iPhone doesn't:

-expandable storage
-ability to function as a disk drive
-ability to copy music directly to the device without needing a program
-ability to copy music directly off the device, preserving filenames and file structure
-flash
-multiple web browsers running *different* engines (not just webkit like iOS, but also firefox and opera)
-multiple, interchangeable home screen apps (Launcher, Launcher Pro, MIUI, Sense, TouchWiz etc...)
-multiple different keyboards (swype, htc ime, betterkeyboard, etc...)
-ability to install non-market apps directly off of the sd card without any kind of root/jailbreak
-custom, tweaked roms
-ability to completely replace pretty much any component of the operating system
-widgets and moveable icons
-physical buttons
I've compared different phones, and the iPhone is better. I also recommend you go see an optometrist later, it might be beneficial to you. ^_~

Everything you've listed sounds fascinating, but it doesn't make the Android (general I realise there's a range of Android devices) better than an iPhone. Not everyone cares about those "features", in fact, a 32 GB iPhone for most is plenty of "expandable" space.

And, the iPhone browser is awesome, at least from my point of view. I see no need for alternatives you've listed.

I can copy music off the iPhone through iTunes, never had any problem doing that. So, while you mention that you don't need a program to copy music of an Android, it isn't much of a feature for me since I don't care.

All my files are "structured" because I buy all my music through iTunes. ^__^

I also don't care about flash. I can watch youtube, and Hulu, although Hulu costs money, but I can afford it, so it doesn't matter.

Multiple home screens are irrelevant to me. The iPhone home screen is perfect. If you don't agree, well, it doesn't matter. It's all about personal preference, and I can care less about moving widgets around or icons.

Meh, I'll make this easier:

Physical buttons - Don't care.

Multiple Keyboards- Don't care.

...

Actually, I'll stop there since I'll only be repeating myself. I understand your point of view and that you enjoy having those features, however for myself I rather have the features of an iPhone. I don't really need to list what they are, because it doesn't really matter.
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Right... so your entire argument is "the iPhone is the better because I like it and haven't bothered to try anything else".

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Actually I have used android phones before, and I do like them. If I was on a carrier that didn't have iPhone, I would be cool having an android phone. Like the Nexus S,. c:

I prefer the iPhone, but a phone is a phone, it always comes down to personal taste. That's the point I was making.
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