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You really have to take everything into account.

how reliable have AMD / ATI drivers been in the past?

Are they really going to deliver mature/stable drivers that will give an extra 20% performance boost like some people claim?

Drivers wise, Nvidia has a pretty good track record.

Also, take into account which games you're going to play most and look up several benchmarks to see which card will be more beneficial for you.

Last but not least, the unique feature set from both camps.

CUDA, PHYSX, 3D Vision, better tessellation, the 570 is now cooler, quieter, and a good overclocker.

vs

Eyefinity off 1 card, and .... well you're an ATI user, you know the benefits AMD offers.
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At that resolution I'd probably poney up the dough for a gtx580 actually.
Have thought about it but the 580 is just way overpriced here in the UK. It seems the 580 anywhere from 10 to 15% faster than the 6970 at 2560x1600 which just isn't worth the extra spandoolies in my opinion.

Although , it's not clear what the difference is at 2560x1440 as it's not a common res but I'm just using the 2560x1600 benches as my yardstick.
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Yeah there's not going to be much difference at all at 1440 VS 1600.

Probably go for the 6970 then, at that res.
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I doubt drivers are going to make a card 20% stronger, the gtx580 is quite a bit better from what I've seen.
I can't imagine new drivers will give anything like 20% improvement, but then they don't have to. The 6970 isn't competing with the 580, it's a lot cheaper. I think a 5% improvement would be great, and I wouldn't be shocked if it was less. But I don't expect a 5% improvement in the 570 performance with new drivers.

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This thread has confused my own purchasing decision. I was pretty set on a 6970 due to recently upgrading my monitor (2560x1440 res now) but it seems it's not that clear as various other posters have pointed out and the 570 is now definitely on my list.
I like the 570, but at 2560x1440 I think you'd be better with the 6970. Check out a rewview done at that resolution: HardOCP review. Note that with that review they try to increase settings as much as possible while keeping the game playable, so don't just look at frames per second, as they'll often have different settings. They basically put the 570 about level with the 6950 at that resolution, and the 6970 way ahead. Now how accurate they are I don't know, but most reviews put the 6970 ahead at that resolution.

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I guess two key considerations here are 1. How much more performance can AMD deliver through driver optimisations and 2. How much will each card overclock.
1. At yuor resolution, the 6970 will be better even if they don't improve it.
2. Early indications are that they both overclock ok. The 570 may seem to overclock better at the moment, but the voltage on the 6970 has been locked awaiting an update to third party software.

If you're ever likely to add a second card, the 6970 will pull further ahead at that resolution, as the 570 will be memory limited.
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I say 570. On youtube TTLC, a reviewer from the UK, stated that it is superior in the PC gaming sweetspot 1920x1200. It runs on less electric, produces less heat, runs quieter, and has the proprietary NV things like PHYSX, all for the same price of the 6970 give or take $30. The 6970 does score better in High res and of course can do eyefinity. It is a tossup really man.
 
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Yeah this is a close battle. I'm interested in both so I've been reading all the reviews as well and the general consensus seems to be: low res - 570, high res - 6970. I'd almost just flip a coin
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On youtube TTLC, a reviewer from the UK, stated that it is superior in the PC gaming sweetspot 1920x1200...
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The 570 uses more electric than the 6970. Otherwise I don't disagree with you.

These are the Power consumption results from different reviews. They all say the 6970 uses less power, except for HardwareCanucks:

AnAnd - Load Power Consumption - Crysis
570 = 361 Watts
6970 = 340 Watts

Hardware Canucks - 1hr 3DMark Batch size test
570 = 337 Watts
6970 = 364 Watts

Guru3d, which calculates the GPU load:
570 = 213
6970 = 207

HardOCP, which calculates total system
570 = 454W
6970 = 428W

BitTech
570 = 330
6970 = 306
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Yeah this is a close battle. I'm interested in both so I've been reading all the reviews as well and the general consensus seems to be: low res - 570, high res - 6970. I'd almost just flip a coin
6850 CF should be in the conversation as well. Faster than a GTX580 for like $340 AR right now.
    
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6850 CF should be in the conversation as well. Faster than a GTX580 for like $340 AR right now.
Then you might as well add 2 460's 1GB, and make that a pair of Hawks, $320 AR and overclock those puppies.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127518
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At your resolution, go with 570
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