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What if I set my pagefile to 200mb so then the harddrive does not have to load much of the pagefile (I get about 60MB/s on my HDD (WD ST3500820AS))
There is software out there that will not run without a pagefile of sufficient size. Photoshop used to be like this, but their are others as well.

You can attempt to run with no pf at all, which will force your pc to use RAM only, but get ready for the random error message. It might never crash, but do so at your own risk. At the bare minimum, I would recommend 1GB. If you really want to optimize the pf performance, put it on its own partition on a separate drive. Essentially, you end up with a pseudo-RAID effect. The pc can access software on one drive and pf data on the other, simultaneously.
    
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Looks like you don't take a joke.
Ok seriously - to speed up a bit, as i see the things, as you are saying that you have no budget for parts - you'll have to go for the OC. Tighten the timings on the ram as much as possible, overclock the CPU as far as the cooler gives you. You could try to go for pagefiles of size around 4GB - I, for example, have 8GB of pagefiles ready and waiting for my progs. Cleaning the temp files and Malware progs will do if you schedule them every month (a week is a too often in my opinion). If i think of something i will write.
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There is software out there that will not run without a pagefile of sufficient size. Photoshop used to be like this, but their are others as well.

You can attempt to run with no pf at all, which will force your pc to use RAM only, but get ready for the random error message. It might never crash, but do so at your own risk. At the bare minimum, I would recommend 1GB. If you really want to optimize the pf performance, put it on its own partition on a separate drive. Essentially, you end up with a pseudo-RAID effect. The pc can access software on one drive and pf data on the other, simultaneously.
Thank you, I will put my PF (16GB) in my E: drive which can read at about 50MB/s
    
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What if I set my pagefile to 200mb so then the harddrive does not have to load much of the pagefile (I get about 60MB/s on my HDD (WD ST3500820AS)) I clean my temp/%temp% folders every week aswell as internet temp files, Also clean out my prefetch folder. I have been running this OS for 3 days now, I have 7 software's running in my sys tray: Windows Live Messenger, Malware Bytes Anti-malware, Winamp Agent, Speaker icon, Removable devices, Virtual clone drive & my sound card application. when idle I use about 320mb of my 4GB. I now only have 2 softwares starting on startup, my AV and my sound card application.

I will follow you're tips and I hope they will help. Thank you for not posting bogus like "Its called i7", some of us cannot afford i7.

Edit:- I have overclocked my CPU to 3.17Ghz from 2.6Ghz. and I am running Windows Classic theme.
The only way you're going to get applications to load quicker is with a Solid State Drive.

Changing your pagefile, cleaning the temp folder, clearing prefetch (will make your system perform worse) will not do a thing. You have a Core2Duo and 4GB of RAM and a HD4650.

So, put your pagefile back to something reasonable. 16GB is more than enough. Cleaning out the temp folder will get you more diskspace. It does not improve the overall speed of the computer. Prefetch is an ESSENTIAL system process. By cleaning that out you're just making things worse.

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Bottom line: You will not improve Windows performance by cleaning out the Prefetch folder. You will, in fact, degrade Windows performance by cleaning out the Prefetch folder. I’ve done performance testing that establishes this definitively. In all the many sites that offer this bogus tip, I have yet to see a single piece of actual performance testing.
And, using Windows Classic as a theme in order to improve system speed is ok, when you're on 512mb RAM and a 64mb IGP (integrated Graphics Processor) Unless it's a preference, you can safely use the normal theme because your GPU is more than enough to handle the desktop rendering.

Finally, uninstall ANY "Windows XP Tweak" programs you have installed because they don't do a damned thing for your system. They are mostly paid-for applications that convince you that you need their program in order to have a smooth running system. You don't. The only good advice they have is not to have too many processes starting on boot. The way around this is to use Task Schedule to stagger the start up process, but you don't need that, either
    
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I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 64bit, I was wondering if there is any little tweaks I could do to make things open alot faster?
Since you already have a lot of memory (4GB), you could afford to dedicate 1~1.5GB to a RAM disk using this software:
http://memory.dataram.com/products-a...ftware/ramdisk

Then install the programs you want to start faster to that RAM disk.
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What if I set my pagefile to 200mb so then the harddrive does not have to load much of the pagefile
This is a bad idea. You might as well turn off your pagefile if you are going to make it 200mb, it is usually recommended that it is at least the same size as your ram.
You also won't notice any performance difference by doing that excpet maybe you would get less performance as that is not a big enough pagefile for windows to do the kind of memory managment it will sometimes need to do under certain loads.

The fact of the matter is that the slowest component in your system is also the one that all your programs are read from, the HDD. A mechanical drive is even worse as you have to wait for the platter to spin to the right sector to start loading a program and for the read/write head to move to that sector. You can tweak all you like but in end the speed of your hard drive is what will limit you.

I used to have a short stroked mechanical drive RAID 0 array. It was pretty fast for a two disc array:

While I could tell the array above was faster, especially at loading large programs, my SSD BLOWS that array away at how fast programs load.

The simple fact is that as long as your drive isn't heavily fragmented, or your OS overloaded with startup items and running processes there is NO tweak you can do that will substantially decrease your program's loading time. So start saving those pennies for an SSD.

Someone else mentioned RAM disc but those are messy, you don't really have enough ram and basically as big as you make your RAM disc you'll be giving up that much system RAM.
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The only way you're going to get applications to load quicker is with a Solid State Drive.

Changing your pagefile, cleaning the temp folder, clearing prefetch (will make your system perform worse) will not do a thing. You have a Core2Duo and 4GB of RAM and a HD4650.

So, put your pagefile back to something reasonable. 16GB is more than enough. Cleaning out the temp folder will get you more diskspace. It does not improve the overall speed of the computer. Prefetch is an ESSENTIAL system process. By cleaning that out you're just making things worse.



And, using Windows Classic as a theme in order to improve system speed is ok, when you're on 512mb RAM and a 64mb IGP (integrated Graphics Processor) Unless it's a preference, you can safely use the normal theme because your GPU is more than enough to handle the desktop rendering.

Finally, uninstall ANY "Windows XP Tweak" programs you have installed because they don't do a damned thing for your system. They are mostly paid-for applications that convince you that you need their program in order to have a smooth running system. You don't. The only good advice they have is not to have too many processes starting on boot. The way around this is to use Task Schedule to stagger the start up process, but you don't need that, either
Okay heres what i have done:
Uninstalled any XP tweaking software (like tweakXP and so on)
Tried to install my crap onto another harddrive (unless I dont get the option)
Kept my PF at 16GB (0mb on C
I do not have MSCONFIG on here Windows says it cannot find the file, So I cannot disable anything on startup, I only have a few applications including rainmeter and Stardock Fences.
Upgraded my ethernet connection from a 10/100 Switchboard to a Direct Gigabit connection into the wireless router.
Overclocked my CPU to 3.57Ghz, My RAM is overclocked to ~888Mhz with the timings: 5-5-5-15-44-1T (CPUID). My bootup time is about 1minute.

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Solid State Drive


This is a bad idea. You might as well turn off your pagefile if you are going to make it 200mb, it is usually recommended that it is at least the same size as your ram.
You also won't notice any performance difference by doing that excpet maybe you would get less performance as that is not a big enough pagefile for windows to do the kind of memory managment it will sometimes need to do under certain loads.

The fact of the matter is that the slowest component in your system is also the one that all your programs are read from, the HDD. A mechanical drive is even worse as you have to wait for the platter to spin to the right sector to start loading a program and for the read/write head to move to that sector. You can tweak all you like but in end the speed of your hard drive is what will limit you.

I used to have a short stroked mechanical drive RAID 0 array. It was pretty fast for a two disc array:

While I could tell the array above was faster, especially at loading large programs, my SSD BLOWS that array away at how fast programs load.

The simple fact is that as long as your drive isn't heavily fragmented, or your OS overloaded with startup items and running processes there is NO tweak you can do that will substantially decrease your program's loading time. So start saving those pennies for an SSD.

Someone else mentioned RAM disc but those are messy, you don't really have enough ram and basically as big as you make your RAM disc you'll be giving up that much system RAM.
Okay, Thanks for the information. My RAM is maxed out at 4GB because my moterboard only supports up to 4GB. I have no money (yet) to consider upgrading to a quad, maybe sometime in the future.
    
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Get a C300, it will love you long time.
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If u cant run msconfig u can use ccleaner to sort boot programs. Also check this out for services u can turn off http://www.jasonn.com/turning_off_un..._on_windows_xp

Also try out mydefrag free .....helped my system when i was on xp
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By deleting the pf and defragging, you move the pf to the end of the partition and put all your software upfront and together.
http://www.mydefrag.com/


This defrag program has scripts that will automatically do this for you, putting the OS and other key programs at the faster outer edge of the disk, etc..(for those not shortstroking) Works well, I definitely noticed a difference when we used this on all our systems here at the office..


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