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Hey guys,

So, a couple of months ago I posted about another AMD build, which I realized was overkill (and after many of you guys commented as well, haha). But here's another shot and I want to take advantage of the micro-ATX case. Main uses will be the Adobe Creative Suite Master Collection, Microsoft Office, and Windows 7. I am debating about the solid state drive (128gb due to Adobe, which takes up to a whopping 25-30 gb!). Thanks guys!

One quick question, is there a better/cheaper/more logical CPU if I won't overclock (I know, I'm on overclock.net... what am I saying???). But the case is ridiculously small and I don't want to take my chances.

Case: $24.99 APEX TX-381-C Micro-ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811154094

Mobo: $129.99 MSI 890GXM-G65 AM3 AMD 890GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130269

CPU: $159.99 AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103727

Memory: $104.99 CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145315

GPU: $89.99 SAPPHIRE 100293L Radeon HD 5570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102874

HDD: $89.99 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136533

SSD: $299.99 Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148362

PSU: $129.99 CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139009

OS: $99.99 Windows 7 Home Premium

Yeah, I wanted to keep this under $1000, but the solid state drive is a thieving machine (but a really nice one)!

Comments and suggestions, as always, are welcome! Happy holidays!
First Micro-ATX build...
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-I do not recommend overclocking with any mATX board and a 125W processor due to the fact that all mATX boards have only at most 4+1 power phase, whether heatsinked or not heatsinked, which is often not adequate for 125W processors. In addition, even though that board is heatsinked, the mosfets on that exact board have caught fire with overclocked 125W processors; a sign that MSI is skimping out on mosfets and of the consequences of such a setup.
-I would rather you go for a full ATX build with that budget, the Apex case isn't even that much of an mATX at all... I actually have one of these, bought for $5 from an NCIX warehouse clearance, it's not very good in terms of cable management, etc. and it doesn't look that good either.
-An 850W is not needed with that setup, it is overkill and is very high for the budget, especially considering the video card.
-STOP. DO NOT GET THAT RAM. Aside from the fact that it is a ripoff and requires a huge 1.65V for generic settings (completely unacceptable), there's cheaper, better choices out there ($99 after promo code)
-Samsung F3 1TB is cheaper and better.
Edited by xd_1771 - 12/18/10 at 6:03pm
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Well, for that amount go with a full ATX build, if you are not gaming why the GPU? the onboard should be enough for normal use, for ram go with the G Skill Eco 1600 CL7 1.35v, when running these @ 1.50v+ you can get them to run @ 1600 CL6, as for PSU try to go modular.
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Hey xd_1771 and Ivan TSI,

thanks for the quick responses. I guess a little more background. Unfortunately, this computer will have to be "portable." It needs to be able to hookup to multiple monitors and be moved from different sites. I know, why not just work on a different computer at a different site? It may seem dumb, but it's for a student group I'm in on campus at school. Adobe is really expensive and the student group works on a magazine. It'll be nice for the computer to be able to move to different monitors to use Adobe suite and run well.

xd_1771: I like your response in particular because of the recommendations.

I will not be overclocking because I doubt it's necessary with Photoshop and other Adobe utilities.

As for the full ATX build, as I mentioned before, I would like it to be slightly portable (it has a nice handle!) and if I ever do decide to build another computer, I'm sure I'll upgrade and take many components from this computer to the next.

I do want to upgrade to an Radeon HD 6870 video card, but I guess that can wait for the next computer rig. Will 650W be enough?

And yes, excellent recommendation for the RAM, thanks!

Ivan TSI: I do like the memory xd_1771 posted and yeah, I'll look into a modular PSU.

Thanks guys!
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Perhaps try a true small form factor case. The PC in my sig had to go all the way from Vancouver, Canada to Manila, Philippines, so portability was a huge factor. I found the Antec Minuet for $20 on Craigslist and the 350W PSU for around $40 new. The Apex case really isn't any smaller than a Mini tower or mid tower, however Apex makes smaller cases.
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that super case kicks ass if you want a rig on the go. I built 5 systems with them so far they are cheap but, they have decent design and the metal isn't too flimsy.
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The metal's actually pretty strong on the Super Case, but I have doubts about the handle which is more of a cheap plastic. Size isn't exactly a plus on that either.
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as long as it doesn't weight to much. you will have doubts about any plastic handle and thats cause it feels light and cheap. My friend gave my an apevia x cruiser and one thing people always gripe about is the handle not being strong enough despite never using it. he used it thousand of time never had it break then i got it after it was run into the ground and made that post in the beastly itx/matx thread.

Wire management isn't too bad i run part of the 24 pin cable under the mobo and shove the rest in a free 5.25 bay. that helps free up space and as long as your PSU doesn't have freakishly long cable like this freaking ante eco 400 i just bought you should be fine.
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