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Again, I don't have figures to back me up, so they could be right - it could be that the industry is declining;
Apparently you've never heard of Justin Beiber.
 
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post #12 of 24
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I was thinking the same thing sort of. Your right, you can't just draw that conclusion from those percentages.
I tend to ignore statistics, unless they reflect my opinion, in which case I memorise them and repeat them when in a duel of wits with an unworthy adversary.
    
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The decline of the music industry is entirely due to the fact that there is a very real lack of talent. Like, it's been five years since anyone brought anything out that I'd buy - and I am sure that in the age when Justin Bieber is the "biggest star", most people would agree that there is nothing to buy.

A&R people, driven by their "commercial" goals, coupled with oppressive recording contracts, and the concentration on scoring huge money on everything, really ruined the industry. Not to mention the tactics of the RIAA, which drive even more people into piracy in order to take "revenge", not just on the malicious law suits, but the years of schlock CD's where people pay large for trite, commercialized poo. Oh, and that there are no music stores left - so even if you want to buy something, you end up having to use the iTunes Store...
post #14 of 24
The only good thing i can say about itunes "it's not as bad as it used to be".

But it's like saying "cholera isn't as bad as it used to be"
post #15 of 24
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The decline of the music industry is entirely due to the fact that there is a very real lack of talent. Like, it's been five years since anyone brought anything out that I'd buy - and I am sure that in the age when Justin Bieber is the "biggest star", most people would agree that there is nothing to buy
So, when music doesn't suit your taste... it's not music? The fact that Bieber is bigger than you'll ever be, makes millions and sings live to thousands goes a long way to prove that people love his music.

I'm no Bieber lover by the way. I'm still hiding in my electro/indy niche and i'm not coming out!
post #16 of 24
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So, when music doesn't suit your taste... it's not music? The fact that Bieber is bigger than you'll ever be, makes millions and sings live to thousands goes a long way to prove that people love his music.

I'm no Bieber lover by the way. I'm still hiding in my electro/indy niche and i'm not coming out!
That is not my point - because in the day, we had the whole bubble-gum pop garbage as well. However, it wasn't the entire industry, like Bieber is these days. It wasn't like you walked into a store and all they had was David Cassidy - they had tons of artists doing tons of things. These days, its a handful of acts that outside of Bieber, end up resorting to snorting drugs and making fools of themselves in order to get any publicity. The industry became weak because it became corpulent, thinking that they could "create" in every possible detail what their A&R people think would be popular.

It's the same malady that afflicts Hollywood. You know, they put a movie out and if it doesn't score a hundred million on the first day - even though no one has even seen the movie - they pull it. So all that comes out is the same old trite scripts, though generally with actors that are inferior though overhyped to that of previous generations, and who resort to the same nonsense in order to grab that four seconds of bad publicity.
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i tend to ignore statistics, unless they reflect my opinion, in which case i memorise them and repeat them when in a duel of wits with an unworthy adversary.
qft.
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post #18 of 24
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That is not my point - because in the day, we had the whole bubble-gum pop garbage as well. However, it wasn't the entire industry, like Bieber is these days. It wasn't like you walked into a store and all they had was David Cassidy - they had tons of artists doing tons of things. These days, its a handful of acts that outside of Bieber, end up resorting to snorting drugs and making fools of themselves in order to get any publicity. The industry became weak because it became corpulent, thinking that they could "create" in every possible detail what their A&R people think would be popular.

It's the same malady that afflicts Hollywood. You know, they put a movie out and if it doesn't score a hundred million on the first day - even though no one has even seen the movie - they pull it. So all that comes out is the same old trite scripts, though generally with actors that are inferior though overhyped to that of previous generations, and who resort to the same nonsense in order to grab that four seconds of bad publicity.
Ever been to a proper record shop like Rough Trade in London? They have great selection, 99% of it non commercial rubbish. There is still great music out there to be found. I don't go near HMV and other big shops.
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Ever been to a proper record shop like Rough Trade in London? They have great selection, 99% of it non commercial rubbish. There is still great music out there to be found. I don't go near HMV and other big shops.
No, never been to London, at least the London that is in England. Our record stores have long disappeared - they used to be pretty good. These days, the want of a CD requires a two hour drive to another city, and even there, the record stores have really dwindled. I never liked or bothered with HMV, it is just a front for RCA Records, and I dislike proprietary things.

There has always been lots of rubbish, even in the mainstream where it was rife. But at least there was Bread, Foghat, and Badfinger. It just seems to me that there are a lot of musicians that simply do not record any more. Record companies hijack cash faster than a swarm of flies can hijack a fresh piece of poo on a hot summer day. The stories are legendary, and I don't blame musicians because really, they make more touring and playing concerts than they will ever make off of an album.

As for iTunes, I see no real competition because no one has really stepped forth, well, next to the Zunes Store, if that's still around.

There are many reasons that push the failures of the record companies - and the iTunes Store is not one of them. To me, iTunes is simply the replacement for the music stores the record companies shoved under in the first place.
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So, when music doesn't suit your taste... it's not music? The fact that Bieber is bigger than you'll ever be, makes millions and sings live to thousands goes a long way to prove that people love his music.

I'm no Bieber lover by the way. I'm still hiding in my electro/indy niche and i'm not coming out!
I don't like any of Beiber's music, or the fact that he's one year younger than me, but looks roughly 6 years younger than me

but I would like to get his pay cheques
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