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NO LONGER !!!

You'll be lucky to get a card today that unlocks!!
ANyway ,. the Twin Frozr 3's manage to do this by and far with a higher chance of success .. see the thread in my signature!
Btw, any card can run 1080p .. even 256MB cards ( I was on a 7800gtx while my 6850 went for repairs, and then I upgraded to a 6950) .. it's just that higher texture sizes = more vram required.. and if it doesn't fit the VRam , it borrows some space from ur main RAM .. so that'll lead to a performance hit at the worst!!

Hmm.. the 1GBs are excellent VFM ..
The 6870 Black is not a BAD option if ur running short.

But very true .. higher AA, AF = more texture space required, so in most cases, with high amounts of AA/AF , the 2GB will outclass the 1GB ./.

I recall seeing a post where 2x 1.5GB 580GTX's in SLI FAILED ... like ~ 10FPS while the 2x2GB 6970's pulled ahead by some 50-60 FPS's// this was of course on a multi monitor setup... but those condifitoons can easily be replicated by playing on a 24inch 1600p monitor with high amounts of AA/AF .

NVidia isn't even a contender anymore , at least in my books.


The 6950 TF3's VRAM hit 1600x4 = 6400MHz in my case so epic win if you will.




E X A C T L Y !!!

Who didn't get it ?

And honestly , I end up having to format my PC once every year.. always hopping the beta drivers bandwagon.. but this driver has proven to be the black sheep this year.
True, it's not done me any good. I reformat every 30 days lol.
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Appreciate the advice guys.

I have not yet decided if I will get a pair of 6950's and crossfire them; but it does seem like I should more seriously consider the 2GB versions.

But, what I get, depends on how much I have left to put into it, after I resolve some other expenses that take priority over the computer! lol... I am not sure how much I will have left after that, but I know I may be able to invest in to a 990FX motherboard; and video card upgrade... maybe, two video cards...

But, would it be better, to just consider getting a single 6970 if it looks like I can't get a pair of 6950's?

Lastly, and most important... would my 850Wt PSU be good enough for a pair of 6950's, or should I consider only 1 card on it... I've tried checking the Recommended/Certified lists on AMD's game.AMD.com website... but the web pages don't seem to be working anymore, Ive been getting errors on them for weeks now.... I can't afford to replace the PSU yet, and I have never had any problems with it; used to run a pair of 8800GT's in SLI on it... now its running my single 5850.
     
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You off to Spain ?? Don;t miss the rock of Gibraltar!! And I think there was a rock somewhere in the sea we saw .. full of seagull poo. : doh:
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Appreciate the advice guys.

I have not yet decided if I will get a pair of 6950's and crossfire them; but it does seem like I should more seriously consider the 2GB versions.
Lol ., so u can somewhat afford a 6950 cfx .. but not a 2gb version of a 6950?? That;s like 10$ difference price wise .

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But, what I get, depends on how much I have left to put into it, after I resolve some other expenses that take priority over the computer! lol... I am not sure how much I will have left after that, but I know I may be able to invest in to a 990FX motherboard; and video card upgrade... maybe, two video cards...
890 - ur current board, is plenty.
People put TOO MUCH emphasis on mobos..
Look at mine : Its a measely 785G .. without the USB3/ sata6 !
Save the dough and get a second gfx card/ BD.

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But, would it be better, to just consider getting a single 6970 if it looks like I can't get a pair of 6950's?
Not really.. unless you really want to OC like nuts. Hmm , nvm .. get a 6950 2GB .. the first half of your post is contradicting with this .

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Lastly, and most important... would my 850Wt PSU be good enough for a pair of 6950's, or should I consider only 1 card on it... I've tried checking the Recommended/Certified lists on AMD's game.AMD.com website... but the web pages don't seem to be working anymore, Ive been getting errors on them for weeks now.... I can't afford to replace the PSU yet, and I have never had any problems with it; used to run a pair of 8800GT's in SLI on it... now its running my single 5850.
If it could run 2 8800Gt's , lol , then ... wait for it .... --->
Ur PSU is PLENTY!!
unless ur gonna super super OC with water cooling and all .. but that would still be enough , if not push ur PSU a bit ... your PC can live with it ..

When a 550W can run a 6950 no sweat, a 650 W can run a 6970 OC'd .. then an 850W can run 2x6970's. If you haven't much cash , then I see you getting 2x6950s.. the 850Watts will more than suffice.
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890 - ur current board, is plenty.
People put TOO MUCH emphasis on mobos..
Look at mine : Its a measely 785G .. without the USB3/ sata6 !
Save the dough and get a second gfx card/ BD.

Lol
lol
The reason I want to replace the Mobo, is because my 890GX was an Open Box deal off Newegg that I picked up in early 2010; and it can't run dual x16; it only has two PCIe Slots at x16, but can only support running two cards at x8... or a single card at x16.

SO, putting a pair of 6950's in Crossfire on my 890GX, would be like trying to put a Ferrari engine, onto a Ford Pinto... therefore, I also want the preformance gain from the 990FX, as well as the ability to expand to an AMD FX-81xx Bulldozer in the future.... honestly, I could care less about the USB3 and the Sata6; I just want more stability and a gain in CPU preformance. I also do not like the color scheme of my current Mobo, and would much rather have a darker board inside my case!

So yea, forgive me for coming here and asking questions that to me, seem to be logical questions based on my concerns for what I can afford, AFTER, I go and pay off some debts that may or may not be legit debts... and coming here to ask questions while the legitimacy of said debts is resolved and I know for sure how much the F'ING BANK is trying to SCREW ME up the ASS for... before I know precisely how much I will have left, to sink into a Video Card upgrade...

So yea... I do not know yet, if I can buy two, 6950's... I do not even know yet, whether I can afford a single 6950 with the hope of adding a second in the future... Therefore, also asking whether getting a single 6970 instead of a single 6950 if it looks like I won't be able to add a second 6950 for a long while, to me, all seems like logical questions to ask!
     
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cjc75, you realize the difference between x8 and x16 is around 0.1% performance-wise right? Only the dual GPU cards such as the 5970, 6990, GTX 590 benefit significantly from x16 over x8.
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Appreciate the advice guys.

I have not yet decided if I will get a pair of 6950's and crossfire them; but it does seem like I should more seriously consider the 2GB versions.

But, what I get, depends on how much I have left to put into it, after I resolve some other expenses that take priority over the computer! lol... I am not sure how much I will have left after that, but I know I may be able to invest in to a 990FX motherboard; and video card upgrade... maybe, two video cards...

But, would it be better, to just consider getting a single 6970 if it looks like I can't get a pair of 6950's?

Lastly, and most important... would my 850Wt PSU be good enough for a pair of 6950's, or should I consider only 1 card on it... I've tried checking the Recommended/Certified lists on AMD's game.AMD.com website... but the web pages don't seem to be working anymore, Ive been getting errors on them for weeks now.... I can't afford to replace the PSU yet, and I have never had any problems with it; used to run a pair of 8800GT's in SLI on it... now its running my single 5850.
I'm using a Corsair AX750 psu with a 6950 cfx with a 6970 and it's working great.

I agree also that you should pick up one HD6950 2Gb is that's all you can afford, and pick up another for cfx later. Don't settle for a 1GB model, it's just not worth it.
If you can only afford one card, try and get a twin frozr 2Gb so you may be able to unlock it as 0razor1 suggested. You can add another 6950 later. The 6970 is a good card, but I don't think it's worth the extra dough over a 6950. When I bought mine, the 6970 was about $80 more.

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The reason I want to replace the Mobo, is because my 890GX was an Open Box deal off Newegg that I picked up in early 2010; and it can't run dual x16; it only has two PCIe Slots at x16, but can only support running two cards at x8... or a single card at x16.

SO, putting a pair of 6950's in Crossfire on my 890GX, would be like trying to put a Ferrari engine, onto a Ford Pinto
Check out my sig rig. I'm using a core 2 quad with 4G of DDR2 on what was considered a decent board two years ago. I have installed a HD6970 and an HD6950 BIOS flashed to 6970 and I am getting excellent performance from my system. So much so that I am not going to bother upgrading the motherboard until this winter. Have you checked to see if there is a BIOS flash available for your mobo that may allow you to install a 6 core AMD CPU? I would think adding two more cores would be a pretty good upgrade too.

I would recommend getting the video card first, especially if you decide on the twin frozr. Unlock it and overclock it at least to HD6970 clocks. Check your performance. If you're not happy, add another video card in cfx before you replace your mobo. You will get a great performance boost in games that support it and your money will be well spent because you can still use both of those cards when you do upgrade your mobo and cpu.
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cjc75, you realize the difference between x8 and x16 is around 0.1% performance-wise right? Only the dual GPU cards such as the 5970, 6990, GTX 590 benefit significantly from x16 over x8.
^ this.

No graphics card on the market uses the full 16 lanes of PCI-Express 2.0 at the moment. And as LethalRise said, dual GPU cards are the only cards that will max out 8 lanes and then some. So upgrading for the sake of getting the 16x,16x configuration isn't going to do much for you. But if you are wanting a 990Fx for Bulldozer, then I understand haha.
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And , as I said .. even x4 Lanes are plenty ,except for some P55 mobos..
Lets close this thread ??






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There doesn’t appear to be much performance difference between x8 and x16 slots, though the X58’s PCIe 2.0 x4 slot certainly outperforms the P55’s 2.5 GT/s version.


As an unbearably difficult-to-render game that few people actually play, Crysis is the real-world benchmark that fills the gap between more popular games and pure synthetics. Like 3DMark, it shows only minor losses going from x16 to x8 mode while giving the X58’s 5.0 GT/s x4 link a huge lead over the P55’s 2.5 GT/s version.

Activating anti-aliasing (AA) makes the difference between slot bandwidth even more visible, but just as noticeable is the fact that none of these settings play smoothly, even with an ultra-fast Radeon HD 5870 graphics card and a 4.0 GHz Core i7 CPU.
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