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Catalyst 12.6 out

Beta 12.7 released

Performance highlights of AMD Catalyst 12.7 Beta

Up to 25% Skyrim
Up to 6% in Crysis 2
Up to 20% in Total War: Shogun 2
Up to 3.3% in Battlefield 3
Up to 6.9% In 3DMark™ 11
Up to 4.8% in Aliens vs. Predator
Up to 6.5% in Batman: Arkham City
Up to 8% in Crysis Warhead
Up to 7.2% in F1 2010
Up to 8% in Just Cause 2
Up to 12% in Wolfenstein MP

12.7 CAP1 profile

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
 
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UPDATE: I'm an idiot! I got home and looked at the card properly and it's actually a 6970. They gave me a free upgrade and I'm trying to argue that they ripped me off. I emailed them back and apologized profusely

You know, as a tech working in electronics service for the public, I never hear people apologize to me after making a mistake. If someone brings something in insisting there is something wrong with it, and I test it over a day or two and it works fine, even if they get upset when they take the unit home I never hear back from them. If they were still unable to get the item working they would return again but they usually get it working and they never say "sorry I was so rude about it".

At least you emailed them back and let them know you made a mistake. That's pretty sweet that they upgraded you. How is the card running?

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Catalyst 12.6 out
Beta 12.7 released
Performance highlights of AMD Catalyst 12.7 Beta
Up to 25% Skyrim
Up to 6% in Crysis 2
Up to 20% in Total War: Shogun 2
Up to 3.3% in Battlefield 3
Up to 6.9% In 3DMark™ 11
Up to 4.8% in Aliens vs. Predator
Up to 6.5% in Batman: Arkham City
Up to 8% in Crysis Warhead
Up to 7.2% in F1 2010
Up to 8% in Just Cause 2
Up to 12% in Wolfenstein MP
12.7 CAP1 profile
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx

Every time I update a driver from AMD it screws Skyrim up. It's nice they the Beta 7 is supposed to speed the game up, but I would like to know if they have fixed the bad flickering in the menus and the map. To be honest about it, I'm considering going Nvidia because of some of the driver problems I've been having specifically with Skyrim. This is a problem a lot of people have been having with AMD/Skyrim and I'm getting tired of it myself. You would think spending $700 on video cards would get you top end performance and quality, but it seems I just can't get both with Skyrim.
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I emailed them but haven't heard back yet

UPDATE: Got an email saying that they are sure it's a 2GB card and then said "Also, we have checked the Gigabyte website and cannot find see that a 1GB version was even manufactured. Please see the link below…

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/list.aspx?s=43&p=52,53@53@53@53,62&v=2,8@6@1@2,15#2"
They didn't look very hard because the card at the bottom is a 1GB card and I'm pretty sure that's the one they sent me. I can't find any with custom coolers that are 2GB cards.

UPDATE: I'm an idiot! I got home and looked at the card properly and it's actually a 6970. They gave me a free upgrade and I'm trying to argue that they ripped me off. I emailed them back and apologized profusely


Excellent that they did you good. I would be mad if they gave me a downgrade.

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At least you emailed them back and let them know you made a mistake. That's pretty sweet that they upgraded you. How is the card running?
Every time I update a driver from AMD it screws Skyrim up. It's nice they the Beta 7 is supposed to speed the game up, but I would like to know if they have fixed the bad flickering in the menus and the map. To be honest about it, I'm considering going Nvidia because of some of the driver problems I've been having specifically with Skyrim. This is a problem a lot of people have been having with AMD/Skyrim and I'm getting tired of it myself. You would think spending $700 on video cards would get you top end performance and quality, but it seems I just can't get both with Skyrim.

Oddly enough updating for me usually does ok, or at least gives me the same performance. This update has screwed me all up. Installed Beta 7 and the catalyst version still says 12.4. Plus I am having a if its not broke do not fix it moment as just cause 2 know has occasional screen tearing. Although to be honest i have been wishing with updates that saints row 3 would improve but i highly doubt it ever will. In AMDs favor most of my games I am very satisfied with, but saints row and need for speed under cover have always had issues
 
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Before the cards I have now, I was running a 4870. Never had a driver issue with it. Then, for about six months, I was running 2 x 4870 in cfx, again no problems.

Then I got a 6950 and ran it as a single for only about a week, but changing the driver from 4870 to 6950 was no problem. Then I get a 6970 and made it the primary card, in cfx with the 6950 and again I didn't have any issues.

Since then I've done two installs of Windows, both from scratch. The first card driver problem I had was last December (or thereabouts) when I came home and booted my computer. I got a notice that a new driver update was available. I let it update and suddenly Skyrim was flickering in the menus and map, So, I tried to go back to the previous version, and this is where all my problems started. The driver installer would say there was a warning during the install. I checked the log and it said it was fine. But when I checked ccc it was still the newer version. After many attempts and using driver uninstallers I finally managed to manually install a driver for the cards, and then do a ccc install. So, it was such a long time for me between driver updates that I gave in to the attempt again a couple of weeks ago. I was surprised when everything seemed to work properly, right up until I checked Skyrim again. Same old flicker problem. I also got the same problem trying to revert back to an older driver. Finally I gave up and played other games while waiting for an update that would fix the Skyrim problem.

So, in this last Beta (12.7), I got a different problem. When I installed it, things seemed fine but when I check ccc it reports 12.6. That's what I was already running. So, I went through all the B.S. again only this time, no matter what I do, I cannot get ccc to report 12.7. When I checked Skyrim though, it's working great and not flickering at all. Everything seems to be working good, so I have turned the update checker for ccc off and I honestly don't know if I'll ever update again...lol.
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So, in this last Beta (12.7), I got a different problem. When I installed it, things seemed fine but when I check ccc it reports 12.6. That's what I was already running. So, I went through all the B.S. again only this time, no matter what I do, I cannot get ccc to report 12.7.

Yup same here with that in mind i will not try a uninstall then reinstall, i'll just assume the beta driver is running and still reporting my previously installed version in ccc (12.4).
 
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Agreed. I reported it to AMD. Hopefully they will fix it before it's out of beta. At least it's working well.

Edit:

OK, I thought it was working well.

I just went to play Skyrim, and it's getting these blocks flickering all over the screen. When I first tested it this same thing happened, but I went to the desktop and fixed the scaling which seemed to get rid of the flickering blocks.

Now, trying it again, the flickering blocks are back. When I went to the desktop and back into the game they were gone, but the performance was down-hill. Choppy frame rate, AND I couldn't get rid of the desktop mouse pointer.

I have to say, this is really starting to piss me off. I mean, really, what is it with Skyrim and AMD? I have to say now, because paying $700 for 2 x AMD video cards is never going to happen for me again, next time I purchase video cards, they are NOT going to be AMD. I am sick and tired of all the problems I've been getting since I purchased the very expensive 6900 series cards. I can't even play my favorite game because, between the game company and AMD they just can't seem to get this huge pile of moneys worth of hardware and software to work properly. I'm supposed to be enjoying playing my freaking expensive computer on this long weekend, last one we get until September. What am I going to be doing instead on the last day of my weekend? Trying to fix this damn problem AGAIN.

Sorry AMD, this was the last chance for me. I spend so much money on your cards to play high end games at high end settings. Unfortunately it seem I'm spending as much time troubleshooting your cards and drivers as I am actually enjoying them. In fact, if you take the enjoyment factor and subtract from it the frustration factor, you end up with a negative number. That's not why I bought two of your expensive cards.

It won't happen again.
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You know, as a tech working in electronics service for the public, I never hear people apologize to me after making a mistake. If someone brings something in insisting there is something wrong with it, and I test it over a day or two and it works fine, even if they get upset when they take the unit home I never hear back from them. If they were still unable to get the item working they would return again but they usually get it working and they never say "sorry I was so rude about it".
At least you emailed them back and let them know you made a mistake. That's pretty sweet that they upgraded you. How is the card running?
Every time I update a driver from AMD it screws Skyrim up. It's nice they the Beta 7 is supposed to speed the game up, but I would like to know if they have fixed the bad flickering in the menus and the map. To be honest about it, I'm considering going Nvidia because of some of the driver problems I've been having specifically with Skyrim. This is a problem a lot of people have been having with AMD/Skyrim and I'm getting tired of it myself. You would think spending $700 on video cards would get you top end performance and quality, but it seems I just can't get both with Skyrim.

The Skyrim issue is so weird - I have played it on both 6950 and 6950 Crossfire, and never had any of the flickering or stuttering issues people mentioned.
The problem I have, and it has remained with drivers from 12.1 to 12.4, is with Crossfire enabled I seem to get no better performance at all- but nothing negative.
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OK, so after several hours screwing around again, I managed to do a manual install that took the drivers back to 11.6. For a while I couldn't get it to update past that, but again doing a manual install on the actual drivers in Device Manager and forcing it to look into the actual sub-directory containing the correct .inf file, finally I got 12.7 installed again (although it still reports 12.6). Before doing any of that, I had used two driver uninstallers, rebooted several times,uninstalled afterburner and radion pro (not just disabled) and uninstalled Skyrim completely. After all the screwing around manually, finally everything seemed to be working. I reinstalled Skyrim again and the system only set the settings to "high". I tried it like that and everything worked properly.

Setting the Skyrim video settings to "Ultra" caused the same flashing squares all over the screen. I went back and reduced the settings on everything one at a time, and finally found that if I set Shadow Detail to High instead of Ultra the little squares disappear.

Is it a driver issue or a Skyrim issue? I don't know. Still, I think the problems reinstalling the video card drivers have pretty much turned me off AMD cards. I suppose the driver installation problem could be a Windows issue as well. Maybe I'll just start sticking with single cards instead of crossfire or sli. I really hope next time I have to update the drivers I don't have so many problems. I always used to wonder why some people complained about AMD driver issues so much, and it seems now I'm getting a taste of it.
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Anyone have a link to the Amd 12.1 drivers with the latest cap?

 

Edit: nm, I have them.


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