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Hello all,

I am running an AMD Athlon II X2 215 right now. Its stock was at 2.7ghz now i over-clocked it to 3.2 but would become unstable afterwards. So i increase the Vcore volt by +50mv from 1.345 to 1.392 i am now up to 3.56ghz

So what besides Temperature is harmful for this cpu?
Is the vcore voltage bad to up? Will it reduce lifespan of my cpu? And if so by how much approximately?

My temps were at 19C idle to 32 load
now from 26 idle to 45 load
My tj max is 115 it says so as long as i dont get to that it should be fine right? I ran p95 for 6 hours last night(didnt get much sleep) with no errors. So can i just keep on increasing it more and more?

I just dont have the money for a new one right now but i want the most out of it though. So what would you say i shouldnt go past? If my temps are good then i can run it at practically whatever right? But obviously i shouldnt go to like 1.5v or higher though.

I dont know much about volts when it comes to oc'ing so if you could enlighten me on any and all things that can happen or will happen etc when doing so that would be most appreciated!

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up to 1.5 you should be safe. Also, I'll repeat what AMD says- runnin your HW at freqs or voltages higher than certified is dangerous and may cause damage, instability or reduce lifespan Other than that +50mv is not much, so I guess you'd be changing your CPU due to tech aging than reduced lifespan
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My tj max is 115 it says so as long as i dont get to that it should be fine right?
Looks like the max temperature for that chip is 55-74c
Here is a good rundown of your processor for ya.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...15OCK22GQ.html
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Thanks! I know it can become unstable and can reduce life span but by hom much? and what kind of damage? So as long as my temps are low and i dont pass 1.5 then it should be all good as long as its stable with a 24hr p95 test right?
    
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Thanks! I know it can become unstable and can reduce life span but by hom much? and what kind of damage? So as long as my temps are low and i dont pass 1.5 then it should be all good as long as its stable with a 24hr p95 test right?
I don't know how much. I'll jsut say I always run OCd CPUs and just rarely increase voltage, but have never burned a CPU, though they've been running OCd for years mostly with stock cooling.

EDIT: Regor C3 (Ath II x2 250+) can survive 1.6v, don't know for how long. And I don't know how things are for Regor C2.. That's why i say 1.5 max, jsut to be sure
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Looks like the max temperature for that chip is 55-74c
Here is a good rundown of your processor for ya.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...15OCK22GQ.html
Attachment 185673

It says it is 115? is that before it melts or what? Or is the max operating temp a guidline for best operation under than temp?
    
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Thanks! I know it can become unstable and can reduce life span but by hom much? and what kind of damage? So as long as my temps are low and i dont pass 1.5 then it should be all good as long as its stable with a 24hr p95 test right?
A twenty four hour p95 run is not needed every time you check for system stability.
Run it a few hours each time you make changes then do a longer p95 run once your happy with were your at.

Cool and quiet will run up to 3.8 GHz. So if you get your final overclock somewhere around there, then enable cool and quiet.
That will help with your chips life span, as it will not be at max vcore 24/7.
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A twenty four hour p95 run is not needed every time you check for system stability. Run it a few hours each time you make changes then do a longer p95 run once your happy with were your at.

Cool and quiet will run up to 3.8 GHz. So if you get your final overclock somewhere around there, then enable cool and quiet, that will help with your chips life span, as it will not be at max vcore 24/7.
Good call. This
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I don't know how much. I'll jsut say I always run OCd CPUs and just rarely increase voltage, but have never burned a CPU, though they've been running OCd for years mostly with stock cooling.

EDIT: Regor C3 (Ath II x2 250+) can survive 1.6v, don't know for how long. And I don't know how things are for Regor C2.. That's why i say 1.5 max, jsut to be sure
How much do you usually oc them? i only increased the volts cus i saw that it was low enough to and because it was a bit unstable at what it was.
    
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A twenty four hour p95 run is not needed every time you check for system stability.
Run it a few hours each time you make changes then do a longer p95 run once your happy with were your at.

Cool and quiet will run up to 3.8 GHz. So if you get your final overclock somewhere around there, then enable cool and quiet.
That will help with your chips life span, as it will not be at max vcore 24/7.
Oh yeah i meant when i get it to what i want to run the full test i just went to bed last night and decided to let it run to check before i go at it again. cool and quiet is already enable it can go up to 3.8 u say? and no more whatsoever!? if u did 1 more mhz it would die? lol

I am currently running stock cooling. When i get after market cooling later can it go higher or is it not the temps that kills the pc? If my temps are low that means i should be able to just keep on increasing it right?
    
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