Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › What harms pc other than temp?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

What harms pc other than temp? - Page 2

post #11 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customx3 View Post
How much do you usually oc them? i only increased the volts cus i saw that it was low enough to and because it was a bit unstable at what it was.
Well..
Athlon 64 2800+ from 1.8 to 1.9
Pentium 4 from 2.5 to 2.9
Athlon X2 4800+ from 2.5 to 2.7
Athlon II X2 260 from 3.2 to 3.8

And I haven't raised the volts on any of them. I only raised them for testing, to see if I'd get 3Ghz/4Ghz, but after that I lower again. The 260 hits a wall at about 3.8 and I needed 1.6v+ to get to 3.9, but figured it's pointless
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #12 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customx3 View Post
Oh yeah i meant when i get it to what i want to run the full test i just went to bed last night and decided to let it run to check before i go at it again. cool and quiet is already enable it can go up to 3.8 u say? and no more whatsoever!? if u did 1 more mhz it would die? lol

I am currently running stock cooling. When i get after market cooling later can it go higher or is it not the temps that kills the pc? If my temps are low that means i should be able to just keep on increasing it right?
From what I have read, 3.8 GHz is the max for cool and quiet. Personally have not tested that myself, as my Phenom II is at 3.75 GHz with cool and quiet on.
If you are wanting to go higher, and cool and quiet is not working for you. There are other ways to change your p-states. Look into K10 stat, or something similar.
Also while you are overclocking your chip, cool and quiet should be disabled. Enable it once your overclock is all said and done and observe to see if it functions correct.
Kingsberger
(15 items)
 
Home Alone
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 4.3GHz 1.3875v Intel DP55KG 1156 P55 Gigabyte GTX 570 Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Series 64GB Swiftech H20-220 Edge Sunbeam Rheosmart 6 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 24" LCD 1920x1080 Logitech Access 600 XION Power Real 1000W Cooler Master HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm ASUS Xonar DG 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD P2 945 3.5GHz MSI 890FXA-GD65 BFG GTX260 SLI Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Western Digital Green 750GB Western Digital Green 750GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Windows 7 Professional SeaSonic X650 Gold ZALMAN Z9 Plus Microsoft Habu 
Mouse Pad
Razer Galiathus 
  hide details  
Reply
Kingsberger
(15 items)
 
Home Alone
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 4.3GHz 1.3875v Intel DP55KG 1156 P55 Gigabyte GTX 570 Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Series 64GB Swiftech H20-220 Edge Sunbeam Rheosmart 6 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 24" LCD 1920x1080 Logitech Access 600 XION Power Real 1000W Cooler Master HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm ASUS Xonar DG 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD P2 945 3.5GHz MSI 890FXA-GD65 BFG GTX260 SLI Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Western Digital Green 750GB Western Digital Green 750GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Windows 7 Professional SeaSonic X650 Gold ZALMAN Z9 Plus Microsoft Habu 
Mouse Pad
Razer Galiathus 
  hide details  
Reply
post #13 of 65
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Precision_PC View Post
From what I have read, 3.8 GHz is the max for cool and quiet. Personally have not tested that myself, as my Phenom II is at 3.75 GHz with cool and quiet on.
If you are wanting to go higher, and cool and quiet is not working for you. There are other ways to change your p-states. Look into K10 stat, or something similar.
Also while you are overclocking your chip, cool and quiet should be disabled. Enable it once your overclock is all said and done and observe to see if it functions correct.
OK ill turn it off. But what would it be like without it? It has been on since i got it from the manufacturer.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
post #14 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customx3 View Post
OK ill turn it off. But what would it be like without it? It has been on since i got it from the manufacturer.
The CPU freq/volts will not drop during Idle. It'd stay always 3Ghz for example, instead of dropping to 1Ghz when there's no work for the CPU. You can expect a but higher idle temps and somewhat higher energy usage
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #15 of 65
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronnin426850 View Post
Well..
Athlon 64 2800+ from 1.8 to 1.9
Pentium 4 from 2.5 to 2.9
Athlon X2 4800+ from 2.5 to 2.7
Athlon II X2 260 from 3.2 to 3.8

And I haven't raised the volts on any of them. I only raised them for testing, to see if I'd get 3Ghz/4Ghz, but after that I lower again. The 260 hits a wall at about 3.8 and I needed 1.6v+ to get to 3.9, but figured it's pointless
I got to 3.2 without increase V from 2.7 so thats not bad but i wanted more lol

If i get it to 3.75 that will be like how much of an increase? like 30% or so wouldnt it be? idk how to figure that out...
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
post #16 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customx3 View Post
OK ill turn it off. But what would it be like without it? It has been on since i got it from the manufacturer.
Well with it off your cpu and cpu northbridge voltages will be static.

When cool and quiet is enabled, it uses different power states on idle.
Basically when overclocking you do not want cool and quiet changing multipliers and voltages because you are trying to get stable.
Kingsberger
(15 items)
 
Home Alone
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 4.3GHz 1.3875v Intel DP55KG 1156 P55 Gigabyte GTX 570 Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Series 64GB Swiftech H20-220 Edge Sunbeam Rheosmart 6 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 24" LCD 1920x1080 Logitech Access 600 XION Power Real 1000W Cooler Master HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm ASUS Xonar DG 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD P2 945 3.5GHz MSI 890FXA-GD65 BFG GTX260 SLI Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Western Digital Green 750GB Western Digital Green 750GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Windows 7 Professional SeaSonic X650 Gold ZALMAN Z9 Plus Microsoft Habu 
Mouse Pad
Razer Galiathus 
  hide details  
Reply
Kingsberger
(15 items)
 
Home Alone
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 750 4.3GHz 1.3875v Intel DP55KG 1156 P55 Gigabyte GTX 570 Kingston HyperX 2x2GB 2133 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Samsung 830 Series 64GB Swiftech H20-220 Edge Sunbeam Rheosmart 6 Windows 7 Professional 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 24" LCD 1920x1080 Logitech Access 600 XION Power Real 1000W Cooler Master HAF 932 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G500 Cooler Master Storm ASUS Xonar DG 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD P2 945 3.5GHz MSI 890FXA-GD65 BFG GTX260 SLI Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Western Digital Green 750GB Western Digital Green 750GB Seagate Barracuda 1TB Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 
OSPowerCaseMouse
Windows 7 Professional SeaSonic X650 Gold ZALMAN Z9 Plus Microsoft Habu 
Mouse Pad
Razer Galiathus 
  hide details  
Reply
post #17 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customx3 View Post
I got to 3.2 without increase V from 2.7 so thats not bad but i wanted more lol

If i get it to 3.75 that will be like how much of an increase? like 30% or so wouldnt it be? idk how to figure that out...
No, I don't think a C2 can get to 3.75...
But to be exact It'd be 37%
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #18 of 65
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Precision_PC View Post
Well with it off your cpu and cpu northbridge voltages will be static.

When cool and quiet is enabled, it uses different power states on idle.
Basically when overclocking you do not want cool and quiet changing multipliers and voltages because you are trying to get stable.
Ok so when all is said and done i turn it back right? Ok well thanks for all your help guys helped alot! rep to all of ya! But now i got another question.
How to oc ram? LOL!
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
post #19 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Customx3 View Post
Ok so when all is said and done i turn it back right? Ok well thanks for all your help guys helped alot! rep to all of ya! But now i got another question.
How to oc ram? LOL!
The easiest thing you can do is go to BIOS, find RAM settings and change freq from 533 to 667 or from 667 to 800. If you're already at max, you can lower the timings- use CPUz to find out which
(if your RAM is currently reported at ~670 in CPUz after the CPU OC, then in BIOS it's set to 533. Otherwise if it's running ~700+, it's already OCd )

EDIT: Oh, that's for DDR3.. Your settings should be like 270-333-400

Note, don't OC the DDR2 too high- it runs at higher voltage than DDR3 and will overheat
Edited by ronnin426850 - 12/19/10 at 9:49am
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #20 of 65
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronnin426850 View Post
The easiest thing you can do is go to BIOS, find RAM settings and change freq from 533 to 667 or from 667 to 800. If you're already at max, you can lower the timings- use CPUz to find out which
Ok i have looked in the bios and it has timings but for mem OC when i set it to manual from auto it then says something like
233
333
400
533

is that how much it goes up by or is that what it is set at? and idk if those are the exact numbers i just know they are close to what it says from memory.

Will get cpuz iv got gpuz already so i will check that out.
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon II X2 215 Asus M3N78-VM Geforce 9400 GT 2gb - 2x1gb ddr2 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Western Digital WD5000AAKs 500gb Lite On 22x Dvd dual layer +- r/rw Vista Ultimate 32 bit AOC 20" lcd 1600x900 
PowerCase
Logisys 480W ATX psu Cooler Master Elite 310, black modified 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: AMD CPUs
Overclock.net › Forums › AMD › AMD CPUs › What harms pc other than temp?